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whith pipit it is? water? (1 Viewer)
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Stephen Dunstan
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Yohay,
The picture hasn't come through.
Stephen.
The picture hasn't come through.
Stephen.
Hi Yohay,
This doesn't look like a Water Pipit(leg colour,flank streaking,upperparts etc wrong),and is probably one of the smaller species.On the basis of the photograph alone,it's hard to judge features such as facial pattern,and I wouldn't like to commit myself to a definite ID on what's visible.Nevertheless,it could well be a Meadow Pipit?Seems to have thicker flank streaking than shown by most Trees,and too much of a buffish cast to the flanks for Red-throated.
Harry H
This doesn't look like a Water Pipit(leg colour,flank streaking,upperparts etc wrong),and is probably one of the smaller species.On the basis of the photograph alone,it's hard to judge features such as facial pattern,and I wouldn't like to commit myself to a definite ID on what's visible.Nevertheless,it could well be a Meadow Pipit?Seems to have thicker flank streaking than shown by most Trees,and too much of a buffish cast to the flanks for Red-throated.
Harry H
Stephen Dunstan
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Yohay,
I would agree with Harry that it probably isn't a Water Pipit (too much streaking, legs probably too pale). Hard to say beyond that after the Cornish pipit.
Was it taken in Israel?
Stephen.
I would agree with Harry that it probably isn't a Water Pipit (too much streaking, legs probably too pale). Hard to say beyond that after the Cornish pipit.
Was it taken in Israel?
Stephen.
Japonicus race of Buff-bellied Pipit is apparently regular in winter in Israel. Looks a bit like one, maybe?
Darrell Clegg
Well-known member
Having spent many hours with that Cornish Pipit I've become fascinated by them.
Obviously from such a small image a conclusive ID would be very difficult, but I don't think we should dismiss it as a Meadow Pipit straight away because there are one or two things which don't seem quite right. Firstly it seems to have one hell of a post ocular supercillium, which doesn't sit well with Meadow Pipit. Then there is the large malar 'splodge' and the obvious median covert wing bar, both of which look a little too bold for Meadow Pipit. The legs are very pink, which is wrong for Water Pipit, but then again those on the Cornish Pipit look exactly the same - like they've come from a Radde's Warbler.
It is difficult to gauge from the photo but I'd like to know why you thought it was a Water Pipit - was it the structure of the bird? Those who have seen the Cornish Pipit were in no doubt that it was from the Rock/Water/Buff-bellied family whereas those who saw the photos thought it was a Meadow Pipit.
Darrell
Obviously from such a small image a conclusive ID would be very difficult, but I don't think we should dismiss it as a Meadow Pipit straight away because there are one or two things which don't seem quite right. Firstly it seems to have one hell of a post ocular supercillium, which doesn't sit well with Meadow Pipit. Then there is the large malar 'splodge' and the obvious median covert wing bar, both of which look a little too bold for Meadow Pipit. The legs are very pink, which is wrong for Water Pipit, but then again those on the Cornish Pipit look exactly the same - like they've come from a Radde's Warbler.
It is difficult to gauge from the photo but I'd like to know why you thought it was a Water Pipit - was it the structure of the bird? Those who have seen the Cornish Pipit were in no doubt that it was from the Rock/Water/Buff-bellied family whereas those who saw the photos thought it was a Meadow Pipit.
Darrell
Edward woodwood
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Without a better pic I'd have to say a Mipit
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