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Flowering plant help! A toughie. (1 Viewer)

Touty

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What in heaven's name is this (see attached photo)? Perhaps it would have been easier if it had been flowering but two reasonably competent botanists (well one very good, and one crap) can't even get it to family. It was in a periodically-flooded riverside hay meadow in limestone country in southern Slovenia this June ('06) where it was the dominant plant. If someone can take it to genus even with that we might be able to ID it. I sha'n't name the other naturalist to spare his blushes. Thx.
 

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BUT... doesn´t Veronicastrum allways have these whorls of leaves as shown in Touty´s link?

This plant doesn´t seem to have the leaves arranged that way, but not that easy to see. How were the leaves arranged, Touty?

Couldn´t this also be something from the Asteraceae?
 
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