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Old Tuesday 24th July 2012, 16:43   #1
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Leptoptilos lüi

Zhang & James (in press). A marabou (Leptoptilos, Ciconiidae) from the Middle Pleistocene of northeastern China. Auk. [abstract]

Must lüi become luei?


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Old Tuesday 24th July 2012, 17:11   #2
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Only if Lu is of Germanic origin
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Old Tuesday 24th July 2012, 17:40   #3
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Thanks, James. I should have remembered that from this 2008 question of mine:There must be a market for the Bluffer's Guide to The Code...
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Old Tuesday 24th July 2012, 18:33   #4
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When I try to bring up the Auk article, it kindly tells me that no abstract is available.

I don't know if I need a Bluffer's Guide to the Code - or simply to have Google Translate operate on the Code.

On second thought, after seeing some Google translations this morning I think that maybe the version of the Code that I have seen is the output from Google Translate. In one case, Google rendered 12 centimeters as 12 inches - but so did Bing Translate.
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Old Tuesday 24th July 2012, 19:07   #5
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When I try to bring up the Auk article, it kindly tells me that no abstract is available.
Steve, perhaps AOU publications are only accessible by non-Americans.

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Steve, perhaps AOU publications are only accessible by non-Americans.
Yes, I can see the abstract, so that's a data point in favour of your theory.
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I cannot even find the title in the list of "just accepted" which otherwise goes back to March.

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Old Tuesday 24th July 2012, 20:08   #8
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I recall others experiencing similar problems with JSTOR/Auk/Condor. Browsers are sometimes convinced that they have the latest page in cache - and so refuse to download an updated page even when a refresh is requested. Best to configure your browser to always clear cache on exit, to guarantee downloading of latest pages when next used.
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Strange: In two browsers, when I start from Richard's link I get a page without an abstract. On the page I get there is a link to an Article Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1525/auk.2012.11227

Clicking that link in IE gets me the abstract, in Opera I get a page loading error (Temporary error).

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PS: and clicking the link I just added here in Opera took me to the Jstor page with everything. I guess it was simply a question of Jstor moving the content from an interim place to the permanent place.

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Suffice to say, the JSTOR website includes 'features' unappreciated by some browsers...
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Suffice to say, the JSTOR website includes 'features' unappreciated by some browsers...
Maybe, but maybe the difference was not browser but timing dependent such that once the JSTOR people had gotten it right, it again worked in Opera.

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And in support of Niels' observation, when I later tried to see the abstract without making any changes, refreshing, etc - it worked.

Apparently timing - or nationality - is everything.
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Old Wednesday 25th July 2012, 06:22   #13
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Presumably lu isn't of Germanic origin, but rather Chinese. This being the case, why would umlauts be used - as far as I am aware, they don't feature in the pinyin system of pronounciation?
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Lu as in luse, green, rather than lu as in road, uses an umlaut (don't know where it is on my keyboard though)
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The U with the two small dots above it is also found in the Mandarin dialect of the Chinese language (all dialects share the same written characters). It is pronounced as "oo" or "ou".
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I don't know why they would have bothered with the diaeresis anyway -- I'm told that "lu" in Mandarin is always pronounced with the German "ü" vowel rather than the German "u" vowel anyway, so it's a distinction which doesn't need to be made.
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路 road, pronounced loo
绿 green, pronounced lü as with German umlaut
check for example
http://translate.google.com/
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http://www.thepurelanguage.com/freec...anslation.aspx
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