lewis20126
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...half the day getting out of sight of the military - even had to hide behind a boulder when a helicopter came low over the hill!
Jos, you're slipping - you could have said "helicopter gunship"!
cheers, alan
...half the day getting out of sight of the military - even had to hide behind a boulder when a helicopter came low over the hill!
Jesus Jos, you are still freaking mental !! 8-P
Yep, but I am definitely wimping out ...I had planned to spend the next six days in those there mountains, but the thought of playing cat and mouse day in, day out didn't really appeal too much ...so sat on a rock today, a posse of Himalayan Snowcocks trundling by, mixed adults and chicks of various ages, I made a spur-of-the-moment decision to end it all ...the trip, not everything ...and so sent messages to good folk back home who then contacted my travel agent - tomorrow is now my last day. See if I can get arrested as a final fanfare :-O
I've got a spare place on a two centre birding trip to Helmand province and the Gaza Strip if you're interested? No flights included but you get a free flight to Cuba with an extended stay if you can grow a decent beard..
Jos, you're slipping - you could have said "helicopter gunship"!
cheers, alan
Bizarre! It's hard to understand that there's a credible threat to Big Almaty Lake from hikers or birdwatchers! Probably just a typically insecure post-Soviet state exploiting western paranoia/propaganda to justify ridiculous 'anti-terrorism' measures.I can absolutely confirm the military presence is VERY heavy at the site now - the lake and the track that goes to the other end are totally out of bounds (numerous signs, a big new one dated 2014 with pictures of soldiers and dogs hiding in the trees!). Today a military jeep parked on the track, soldiers doing frog march down the main road past the dam and a guy with a whistle sitting on the dam itself.
Worse still, the military have a camp at the observatory and access to the this area is also blocked, i.e. where all the birds are! The gate is manned by a soldier and he made it very clear I could not go there. Argued with him for twenty minutes (which is very easy when he speaks no English, I no Russian), he radioed someone higher up and still the answer was no. Same for the higher altitude cosmodrome. If I understood correctly, a permit is maybe available somewhere, but no idea where.o
Gee, this country still feels like the Soviet Union in some respects!
Bizarre! It's hard to understand that there's a credible threat to Big Almaty Lake from hikers or birdwatchers! Probably just a typically insecure post-Soviet state exploiting western paranoia/propaganda to justify ridiculous 'anti-terrorism' measures.
Well, it is pretty close to the border with Kyrgyzstan. And a foolish consistency is the hob-goblin of a small-minded dictatorship.
But more likely you're right. Just paranoia.
Sorry to hear your trip's a bust Jos.
It is indeed amazing that commercial airliners have continued to be routed over eastern Ukraine where several aircraft have been shot down in recent days, including an An26 Curl at over 20,000 ft.Yesterday, on route from Almaty to Kiev, I flew over eastern Ukraine for the second time in two weeks, surely not entirely safe for commercial planes I thought. 24 hours later, exactly same spot, seems a commercial jet has indeed been shot down, 295 dead. Gee, I am a little numbed.
It is indeed amazing that commercial airliners have continued to be routed over eastern Ukraine where several aircraft have been shot down in recent days, including an An26 Curl at over 20,000 ft.
Trip now over, reports to follow soon ...
Yesterday, on route from Almaty to Kiev, I flew over eastern Ukraine for the second time in two weeks, surely not entirely safe for commercial planes I thought. 24 hours later, exactly same spot, seems a commercial jet has indeed been shot down, 295 dead. Gee, I am a little numbed.
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I can absolutely confirm the military presence is VERY heavy at the site now - the lake and the track that goes to the other end are totally out of bounds (numerous signs, a big new one dated 2014 with pictures of soldiers and dogs hiding in the trees!). Today a military jeep parked on the track, soldiers doing frog march down the main road past the dam and a guy with a whistle sitting on the dam itself.
Worse still, the military have a camp at the observatory and access to the this area is also blocked, i.e. where all the birds are! The gate is manned by a soldier and he made it very clear I could not go there. Argued with him for twenty minutes (which is very easy when he speaks no English, I no Russian), he radioed someone higher up and still the answer was no. Same for the higher altitude cosmodrome. If I understood correctly, a permit is maybe available somewhere, but no idea where.
With nothing better to do, an attempted bribe also having failed to shift the guy, I was sat at the barrier pondering my next move when, rather unexpectedly, he relented (and this was a direct violation of what the soldier's higher rank had said) and said I could, gesturing by hand signals, go directly to the cosmodrome, then come back ...and go no where near the observatory area.
So, up I went, and didn't come back till evening ...spent half the day watching some very fine birds and half the day getting out of sight of the military - even had to hide behind a boulder when a helicopter came low over the hill!
Tomorrow I attempt the observatory by the back door and the far end of the lake (got whistled at this evening for trying).
Gee, this country still feels like the Soviet Union in some respects!
That drug problem is at least the claimed reason for the tightened regime.