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Old Tuesday 8th August 2017, 17:34   #3251
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nutty, west coast gulls are a nightmare with all those hybrids hanging around but i tend to agree with you it doesn't look like a thayer's gull. actually it doesn't look like any typical juvenile west coast gull. the fact that it hasn't replaced any scaps by february would favour thayeri but that smooth pattern is nothing i have seen in juveniles of this species. maybe it's a dodgy olympic gull :)
Excellent, thanks!

I'll move it to the 'Unidentified Gulls' category
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Old Tuesday 8th August 2017, 17:35   #3252
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Talking of gulls . . .

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Old Wednesday 9th August 2017, 09:29   #3253
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Old Tuesday 29th August 2017, 13:46   #3254
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Larus cachinans?
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Old Tuesday 29th August 2017, 18:06   #3255
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hi odysseas, no this is a michahellis. now, when they are in basic (non-breeding) plumage it's rel. simple: many streaks around eye = micha, mostly white head but concentrated streaks on hindneck forming a collar = cachi. plus bill shape and eye colour.
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Old Tuesday 29th August 2017, 19:12   #3256
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hi odysseas, no this is a michahellis. now, when they are in basic (non-breeding) plumage it's rel. simple: many streaks around eye = micha, mostly white head but concentrated streaks on hindneck forming a collar = cachi. plus bill shape and eye colour.
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Old Saturday 14th October 2017, 16:43   #3257
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Old Tuesday 2nd January 2018, 18:55   #3258
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Hi Everyone,

What are you thinking about this gull. Photo taken from Trabzon, Turkey , 31.12.2017.

http://www.trakus.org/kods_bird/uye/...7@d&idx=196249
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Old Monday 8th January 2018, 20:46   #3259
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Geneva gulls

Time for my New Year jaunt down from the mountains to confuse myself looking at the gulls around Geneva. Usual murky conditions and my incompetent use of the camera produced the attached results today. Lots of 2nd years, all obvious michahellis except the white-headed, leggy individual that stands out even in these poor photos! Also, the underwing was very pale as it took off so I'm assuming it's a cachinnans?
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Just bumping this one up again, Gull id. queries above from Switzerland, Turkey and Greece. Thanks in advance larophiles !
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i guess you don't need an ID for this one? (1cy ich mel)
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Old Monday 15th January 2018, 11:01   #3262
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What are you thinking about this gull. Photo taken from Trabzon, Turkey , 31.12.2017.

http://www.trakus.org/kods_bird/uye/...7@d&idx=196249
hi tsingy,

this is an "impossible" gull, i mean, it doesn't match any taxon in pattern, bare parts coloration and head striation. i suspect a hybrid involving argnetatus, maybe a heuglini as other parent but then the very rectangular ending tongue on underside of p10 is odd for both sp.; if you take heuglini x cachinnans the strong head pattern and especially around neck sides is off for both. a very weird bird but there is an intergradation zone / melting pot in european russia, e.g. in the selitva-region producing such weird birds. i'll share it on westpalearctic gulls FB group, if you don't mind.
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Time for my New Year jaunt down from the mountains to confuse myself looking at the gulls around Geneva. Usual murky conditions and my incompetent use of the camera produced the attached results today. Lots of 2nd years, all obvious michahellis except the white-headed, leggy individual that stands out even in these poor photos! Also, the underwing was very pale as it took off so I'm assuming it's a cachinnans?
hi richard, this still is a michahellis, even if it had paleish underwing. that stubby, high bill with a blunt tip is nothing belonging to a cachi, also horizontal stance, and the apparently large dark eye in a squarish head all point towartds michahellis. shows how variable they are, compared to the darkies nearby
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Thanks Lou, I was a bit worried about that chunky bill, back to the drawing board it is then!
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