Andrew Rowlands
Well-known member
Attached is some info from Russia regading LGRE's query about S-b C.
Cheers,
Andy
Cheers,
Andy
me1000 said:O.K. so my question to you all cannot be answered.
So why can`t Curlews be hybrids ???????????????????????????
me
Tim Allwood said:I'm sure the vast majority of people have been looking at the right bird. It didn't have the right posture, structure, behaviour or bill shape as i mentioned and that was more than enough to make me wonder about its provenance....we still don't know what it is exactly but it would appear to be an adult (something my mate was putting to many folks on Sat and getting cold shouldered.....eight tail bars!) and therefore as LGRE posted it can't be what we previously thought of as adult-type SBC.
It could turn out to be a hybrid, previously unknown race, even sushkini race perhaps which are known to be phenotypically very close to perceived appearance of SBC. With regard to hybridisation, it may have been occuring more than we think
CJW said:Have you seen the latest ones on Surfbirds?
http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/display.cgi?gallery=gallery9
NOW tell me that it's an SBC!!
marek_walford said:I'd like to tell you it's a SBC but...
So, what is it then?
I'm not sure it's conclusively established that there ever was a second "small curlew" - only that some people were looking at the wrong bird at some point. I'm convinced all the photos on Surfbirds and in the other links posted here are of the same individual.Allen said:I guess the first answer to that, based on other preceding messages, is.....is it the same bird??
Steve said:Reader it's post #243 on your script.
Andrew Rowlands said:Found a comment from Italy:-
"Subject: Re: Minsmere Curlew
the thigh (the feathering) its short, not long as in SBC leaving exposed long tibia
Andy.
Ashley beolens said:Has anyone else noticed how much clearer the eye ring is looking in recent photos, as well as there appears to be more spotting?
Also in the latest pictures the head structure looks very good for SBC, it is far more sloping than the accompanying round headed EC.