Kathi Hutton
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Following this discussion with interest. Still awaiting photos.
Please consider that if (and I say if) these birds are Honey Buzzards then you will be exposing an almost certain breeding site based on what you have said above. Rather than post these images on a public forum (if you manage to obtain any) I would urge you to send them to your local county recorder (you can find the contact details on the SOC website). If they are HB's, great, and it goes no further. If they are Common Buzzards, it makes no difference. I wouldn't be posting any results on here if it turns out they are HB's.
It looks like you were probably right all along, despite the comments. See McInerny, Rossiter, etc.Understood!
I have to say that we heard them last year as well, and they did seem to be pretty static, somewhere at the top of the crags.
I'm just going to jump in here and wish you a warm welcome to you from those of us on staff here at BirdForumIt looks like you were probably right all along, despite the comments. See McInerny, Rossiter, etc.
Really? Here is a photograph of a "Juvenile Black Kite" from (apparently first breeding record?) in Northumberland last year by one of the above "authorities"...It looks like you were probably right all along, despite the comments. See McInerny, Rossiter, etc.
Thanks for the great welcomeI'm just going to jump in here and wish you a warm welcome to you from those of us on staff here at BirdForum
We're glad you found us and please join in wherever you like
Then I refer you to the excellent survey work done by the aforementioned Chris McInerny:Really? Here is a photograph of a "Juvenile Black Kite" from (apparently first breeding record?) in Northumberland last year by one of the above "authorities"...
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Excellent and informative paper, thanks for the link.Then I refer you to the excellent survey work done by the aforementioned Chris McInerny:
The call of the Honey Buzzard has a haunting, Golden Plover like quality and is quite different to that of Common Buzzard. In the late 80's, a couple of birding friends and myself located two Honey Buzzards by call at Lynn Point, Kings Lynn, Norfolk in May. They were possibly birds from the nearby Sandringham estate.
There have been odd records in Argyll to the west of the 'Central West' region with a sick Honey Buzzard picked up from a road alongside Loch Awe. It sadly died later in care. Hopefully a small breeding community can be found as there is very suitable habitat across Argyll.
Latitude of 56N in Scotland in itself should not be a problem, for its breeding distribution in above 66N in Sweden, Finland and western Russia!Then I refer you to the excellent survey work done by the aforementioned Chris McInerny:
The call of the Honey Buzzard has a haunting, Golden Plover like quality and is quite different to that of Common Buzzard. In the late 80's, a couple of birding friends and myself located two Honey Buzzards by call at Lynn Point, Kings Lynn, Norfolk in May. They were possibly birds from the nearby Sandringham estate.
There have been odd records in Argyll to the west of the 'Central West' region with a sick Honey Buzzard picked up from a road alongside Loch Awe. It sadly died later in care. Hopefully a small breeding community can be found as there is very suitable habitat across Argyll.
Thanks for posting, the mentions of distribution even down my way is quite intriguing. I've not met McInerney but I posted his paper about the Botanic Gardens recently.Then I refer you to the excellent survey work done by the aforementioned Chris McInerny:
The call of the Honey Buzzard has a haunting, Golden Plover like quality and is quite different to that of Common Buzzard. In the late 80's, a couple of birding friends and myself located two Honey Buzzards by call at Lynn Point, Kings Lynn, Norfolk in May. They were possibly birds from the nearby Sandringham estate.
There have been odd records in Argyll to the west of the 'Central West' region with a sick Honey Buzzard picked up from a road alongside Loch Awe. It sadly died later in care. Hopefully a small breeding community can be found as there is very suitable habitat across Argyll.
You're very welcome. I had a look at the Glasgow Botanic Gardens paper and it is very good. His online talk given to the Argyll Bird Club last year was fantastic.Thanks for posting, the mentions of distribution even down my way is quite intriguing. I've not met McInerney but I posted his paper about the Botanic Gardens recently.