Chiffchaff overwintering? [U.K, Midlands] (1 Viewer)

J

Jumbo

Well-known member

• Nov 30, 2012

• #1

Over the last few days I've had regular sightings of Chiffchaff in my garden.

Presumably these are from the scandanavian populations (abietinus?), are they likely to overwinter or continue south?

Any other members with similar sightings?

 

Attachments

• 
  _DSC5852.JPG

  298.4 KB · Views: 184

KenM

Well-known member

• Nov 30, 2012

• #2

I can't be exacting looking at this image, as to where the tertial to pp ratio lies..but that looks more like a Willow Warbler than a Chiff Chaff to me..when was it taken?

 

eddy the eagle

Well-known member

• Dec 1, 2012

• #3

My thoughts entirely,it looks like a willow warbler to me to. Eddy.

 

J

Jumbo

Well-known member

• Dec 1, 2012

• #4

KenM said:

I can't be exacting looking at this image, as to where the tertial to pp ratio lies..but that looks more like a Willow Warbler than a Chiff Chaff to me..when was it taken?

Click to expand...

The photo was taken two days ago (29.Nov) in Burton-on-Trent.

Here's a couple of different angles. The leg colour was deceptive in bright direct light they appeared pinkish, but in shade they looked nearly black.

Perhaps I should move this thread to the ID subform?

Many thanks for the responses.

 

Attachments

• 
  _DSC5866.JPG

  399.3 KB · Views: 137
• 
  _DSC5869.JPG

  318.1 KB · Views: 109

Jon Turner

Well-known member

• Dec 1, 2012

• #5

I see Jane's looking too so I'll leave the id to her! But I ringed a Chiffchaff yesterday here in N Devon, and there have been at least 5 around the ringing site in recent days. I know the ringers in S Devon have lots down on the south coast too.

 

Jane Turner

Well-known member

• Dec 1, 2012

• #6

I ran away screaming Jon but can see the WW arguments

 

Jon Turner

Well-known member

• Dec 1, 2012

• #7

Jane Turner said:

I ran away screaming Jon but can see the WW arguments

Click to expand...

Hmm not like you to miss a challenge Jane!! I couldn't make out how many emarginated primaries I could see.....

Jumbo, if you read the Falmouth birding thread you'll see a post today giving really big numbers of Chiffs at 2 sewage plants near Falmouth.

 

KenM

Well-known member

• Dec 1, 2012

• #8

Jumbo.. looking at the new image no.2....It's a Willow Warbler!..as it not only compares cosmetically..it also shows PP equalling tertials.....

cheers

 

J

Jumbo

Well-known member

• Dec 2, 2012

• #9

KenM said:

Jumbo.. looking at the new image no.2....It's a Willow Warbler!..as it not only compares cosmetically..it also shows PP equalling tertials.....

Click to expand...

Jane Turner said:

I ran away screaming Jon but can see the WW arguments

Click to expand...

I had made an assumption based on the time of year that it couldn't be a WW.
Seeing the whitish eye-ring clearly broken by the eye-stripe was enough to sell me on it being a Chiffchaff, but the details KenM points out would suggest WW.
Jane, my apologies for making you run away and scream!

Jon Turner said:

Jumbo, if you read the Falmouth birding thread you'll see a post today giving really big numbers of Chiffs at 2 sewage plants near Falmouth.

Click to expand...

I'll keep my eyes out for any more and attempt some better photos next time.

Many thanks for all the responses.

 

wildlifelove

Hopefully Birding...

• Dec 2, 2012

• #10

I saw a Chiffchaff about 3 weeks ego...But not since. Some stick around a little late. I also saw swallow and swift 3 weeks ego..think there gone now. May be the odd stray around which got lost..but most leave.