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Old Sunday 5th February 2017, 15:12   #1
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Angry Thanks for the 600 paperweight Opticron

Dear Opticron, I'd like to take the time to thank you for your little effort at producing a paper weight shaped like a miniature spotting scope. I just admit, at 600 it was a tad expensive, but wowser, how it holds down those sheets!

MM3 50 ED paper weight. Because that is all it is good for now, as I just won't accept the risk of taking an optic that isn't sealed and purged.

I mean, come on, the THERON SAKER at 200 was nitrogen purged and sealed. The SIGHTRON BLUE SKY at 180 are sealed and purged, my HAWKE ENDURANCE 85, my HAWKE FRONTIERS.....DITTO... every thing and any one in optics for birding, today seals and purges. I mean, unless you are Opticron. Then.... well, we all get to play pot bloody luck if our units resist a little flight and a month in harsh conditions.

This isn't the day and age of optics that are not sealed. Birders actually go to cold places, hot places, rainy places...

And here is me, trusting a British company that supposedly produces great optics.

Well, fool me once, shame on you. I won't ever purchase another Opticron product, and I'm busily spreading the word about the MM3 50.

I never knew I needed a paper weight, but gosh, this one's peachy. As for you people....

Hang your heads in shame, you utter den of #####.
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Old Sunday 5th February 2017, 15:23   #2
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Robust and Nitrogen purged....

Oh wait, no! No, not now, whoops.....hi there 600 junk fit only for paper weight...

http://www.optics4birding.com/opticr...ed45-body.html
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Old Sunday 5th February 2017, 15:26   #3
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What did Opticron customers services say when you contacted them?
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Old Sunday 5th February 2017, 15:35   #4
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If it was sold to you as "Nitrogen Purged" and "Water Resistant" and it's not, and you you're not happy about this. get your money back.

I don't see a problem. Either way, it's got a 30 warranty, personally I wouldn't worry about it until it fails to meet you expectations.

Maybe Opticron can modify it for you?

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What did Opticron customers services say when you contacted them?

On going. I'll post about them after I speak on Monday.

The irony is, the company I purchased the MM3 50 and SDL V2 eyepiece from asked me to contact Opticron.

So Monday morning it is.
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"The irony is, the company I purchased the MM3 50 and SDL V2 eyepiece from asked me to contact Opticron"

They should do that really, that's why they make a profit on them, it's all part of the service. Having said that, my understanding is that Opticron are approachable and you might get answers quicker.
I think saying that your scope is little more than 600 paper weight, is a bit unfair considering that as we speak you have not had a problem with it. Or have you?
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Am a little confused as the Opticron website makes no reference to being nitrogen purged:

http://www.opticron.co.uk/Pages/mm3_50_scope.html

Are water resistant and rain resistant the same thing?
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Old Sunday 5th February 2017, 21:05   #8
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The attached thread may be of interest to you Ratal http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=337778

It will be no comfort but the old adage of handling before you buy in person (rather than the internet)

To me you initial case would be with the (US based) retailer who misdescribed the product.
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While the 'paperweight' characterization is really OTT, I can see being aggrieved when learning that something thought to be 'waterproof' was merely 'water resistant'. There are very detailed test procedures attached to each claim and they should not be misrepresented.
Details are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

That said, it is rare that conditions are so wretched that the 'waterproof' part of the warranty is seriously tested, if only because it is really hard to bird when it is pouring. My old Zeiss 8x30BGAs are listed as merely water resistant, but they have soldiered on flawlessly even when it was really wet.
Granted, they never got the full fresh water immersion recommended for my Canon 10x42s, but clearly 'water resistant' is not just an empty slogan.
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