Are these line of binoculars made in China?
And the reason most Birdforum readers wouldn't touch them with a 10-foot pole, regardless of their other 'contributions.'
Slow down people. It seems Dennis ranting has everyone so mad that there is immediate negative vibes for a new binocular nobody has even seen yet. Dennis is succeeding in getting under everybody's skin. It is screwing up a thread he has not even had much chance to screw up...yet.
Looks kind of like a Leica focus knob. Sort of Trinovid like specs.
Anybody ever notice all these new outfits seem to have been undertaken by people with previous work experience in the optics world?
An Alpha 8x42 with a FOV of only 125m / 1000m ????
Doesn't seem very alpha to me .
This new company seems to be offering some different magnifications and they have some AK prism models as well. It is kind of weird that the FOV's on these are kind of small and no field flatteners but I would suspect they are trying to keep costs down and RB out of the picture. I have heard that the new Nikon Monarch HG does have some RB and some people just can't tolerate it so I would suspect these companies are using a less complicated, less expensive eyepieces to avoid that can of worms and put the money into the glass and offer a binocular like the Trac Toric or Maven which emulates the Swarovski SLC HD in a lot of ways in design philosophy. I think a lot of these binoculars are aimed at hunters and many hunters don't need a huge FOV either. This is just pure speculation on my part. I understand your point though.There are so many new companies popping up left and right, but when I look at the tech specs none of them seem to separate themselves from one another. That's why Nikon Monarch HG to me is one of the most exciting mid-priced binos to come out. They are very lightweight, compact and have a massive FOV with field flattener. It seems Nikon is going in the right direction here with their new offering IMHO.
People who are looking for a good utility binocular have a lot to choose from which is nice. But, as a bino enthusiast I'm not excited about a lot of these new companies. At least Maven is offering something a little different with the A/K prisms and different magnifications which are hard to find.
That would be a good thing.They are most likely japanese.
Competition is a good thing, especially for the consumer. These new entities must feel there is market share to be gained or they wouldn't be attempting such a thing. It will be interesting how it all plays out.
I have never decided the merits of a binocular based purely on specs, literature, etc. It's a poor way to choose IMO. I was in love with the Swaro SV 8x32 based on specs and opinions from lots of people and places. I've never been so disappointed in my life when I actually bought one and used it. I've also been very pleasantly surprised a few times, as with the Mojave 8x32, Toric, Meostar HD, Gold Ring HD, and an 8x30 Maven. As I posted before, and it's worth repeating.....opinions are a poor substitute for actual experience. As Steve said, everyone should take a breath and relax, have some patience to see how it plays out. This isn't life threatening stuff here, it's only optics.
Glad you know what does and doesn't work for you. I've tried many bins in my life and I've found that specs and reviews are a good guide to how I'll react to a bin once I have in my hands, so here goes......I have never decided the merits of a binocular based purely on specs, literature, etc. It's a poor way to choose IMO...
I don't think I am getting under anybodies skin with a little light humor. Maybe yours. Sometimes I think you take my humor as ranting when it is not intended that way. That is your opinion that I am screwing up the thread. You need to mellow out a bit and don't take this stuff so serious." Slow down people." REALLY! Let us have some fun, teacher.Slow down people. It seems Dennis ranting has everyone so mad that there is immediate negative vibes for a new binocular nobody has even seen yet. Dennis is succeeding in getting under everybody's skin. It is screwing up a thread he has not even had much chance to screw up...yet.
Looks kind of like a Leica focus knob. Sort of Trinovid like specs.
Anybody ever notice all these new outfits seem to have been undertaken by people with previous work experience in the optics world?
I have looked at the site, and they do stress the made in Germany
part. They may be having one of the German mfrs. help with the
manufacturing. Maybe Leica is doing some work for GPO.
Jerry
I've tried many bins in my life and I've found that specs and reviews are a good guide to how I'll react to a bin once I have in my hands, so here goes...
--AP
In all my binocular purchases I usually use specifications as a guideline but many times I have purchased a binocular based on specifications and not liked it. A lot of these have been Chinese made because the specifications on paper look really good but when I got them I found I had a lot of quality issues and often times the build quality was lacking in some area. Either the focus came loose or the diopter was funky or there was a lot of slop in the eyecups. Maybe others have had better luck with Chinese binoculars but mine has been very spotty. I have had better luck with Japanese made binoculars. I wouldn't be afraid to try these new binoculars even though the specifications are not that great because sometimes they will fool you.yep and that's how almost everyone does it: Specs are used to rule out binoculars that you think most likely won't work and they are used to pick out ones that look like they could work well for you. So, you get your hands on the ones which have the listed Specs which meet your requirements and then try those out to see if they are a good fit or not.
Hi ND. How do you figure I am ruining the thread? At least I am contributing to it. Your the Troll because you troll around following me around calling me a Troll. Chill out Bro! By the way I don't play with myself.Dennis is on my ignore list, so why is this guy trying to ruin another thread.
Get lost, go play with yourself.
Jerry
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I am not sure why a 91% total transmission does not seem likely. There are other binoculars out there that have a similar spec or more. Also the 99.7% figure is shown as "99.7% ags". That looks quite explicit and not misleading.
Example-Classic design SP prism of 93%
http://www.allbinos.com/303-binoculars_review-Swarovski_SLC_10x42_W_B.html