ID confirmation needed (Poland) (1 Viewer)

Ghostly Vision · Sep 2, 2006

Can we go back to page four of this thread, and post 94?

The picture of the Tit, identified as Willow, seems odd to me. The bird appears on my screen to have a black nape extending round onto the lower rear cheeks, and also a really extensive black bib. A bit like a Sombre tit, which although it shouldn't be in Poland, isn't far off to the south.

Can someone look at the photo for me and tell me why I am seeing it so wrongly?

Was the bird calling, Namq?

Sean

namq · Sep 2, 2006

Ghostly Vision said:
Was the bird calling, Namq?

Unfortunately not. As for Sombre Tit - it would be the first observation in Poland, so I rather think not

As for the Knot - I've just checked in my book and it's the size of a Redshank... I didn't think so. In Polish the names for Little Stints and a Knot are similar ('biegus malutki' and 'biegus rdzawy') which suggests that their size do not differ that much

mikus · Sep 2, 2006

namq said:
In Polish the names for Little Stints and a Knot are similar ('biegus malutki' and 'biegus rdzawy') which suggests that their size do not differ that much

But still, despite the polish names, they are respectively the smallest and the biggest of our common calidris species.
I think the bird in 3502 stretched its body unusually and that's why its figure resembles Ruff or some tringa waders, but otherwise it looks like a Knot.

lou salomon · Sep 2, 2006

sean,
i have seen many sombre tits and this doesn't look like one. sombre's bib is much bigger and forms a sharp angle with the black of the cap like in this pic: http://www.birdseen.co.uk/images/video/lesbos/sombre2.jpg
bill is a bit longer in sombre i think.
and isn't there a pale wing panel in the polish tit?

namq · Sep 4, 2006

Maybe this time I get everything right

Photos taken today.

1 (4291). Wood Sandpiper ?
2 (4307). Dunlin (foreground), Curlew Sandpiper (background) ?
3 (4358). Temminck's Stint ?
4 (4366). Little Stint ?
5 (4385). Red-necked Phalarope ?

Thanks in advance!

Andrew Rowlands · Sep 4, 2006

namq said:
Maybe this time I get everything right
Photos taken today.

Maybe you have! :t:

Good birding day for you, too.

lou salomon · Sep 4, 2006

great pics! especially the 2 temminck's show nicely their typical "snapped" legs making them look ducked. agree on all ids.

namq · Sep 9, 2006

Photos taken yesterday. Northern Poland. Thanks in advance!

1 (5538): Larus fuscus ?
2 (5669): Larus cachinnans ?
3 (5717): Rock Pipit ?
4 (5740): Larus cachinnans ?

lou salomon · Sep 9, 2006

hi namq,

1. baltic gull (l. fuscus fuscus)
2. herring gull
3. rock pipit but i'm not totally sure i can exclude meadow pipit, there are some strange MPs looking like RP... some with better knowledge on structure should confirm this. did you notice its leg colour in the field?
4. i think it is a herring gull either although it has a long bill and quite plain coloured scapulars. head looks almost like yellow-legged gull. greater coverts and tertials could fit caspian. but the head structure doesn't strike me as being caspian. i'm not sure on this. is it the same ind. like in photo nr. 2?? edit: hm, obviously not. possibly a male cachinnans, i must check further!

JANJ · Sep 9, 2006

Has some cachinnans characters mentioned by Lou, structure though, perhaps not ideal. Variable as chacinnans can be compare plumage with this one:

http://www.bongariliitto.fi/kuvat/11_Rantalinnut/11h_Lokit/larcac_20050822_tamper_sapet/cace20.jpg

JanJ

lou salomon · Sep 9, 2006

plumage looks actually ok for cachinnans! just that head + not really small looking eye, and, though not reliable to say but primary projection looks a bit short for cachi.
shouldn't caspian have some more scaps moulted by this time of the year?

JANJ · Sep 9, 2006

There are some second generation scapulars, six that I can see from this side, but I can´t see any covert moult. Some are later, not that uncommon. But being from Poland, with such a jizz, hybrids do exist, so...

JanJ

lou salomon · Sep 9, 2006

JANJ said:
There are some second generation scapulars, six that I can see from this side, but I can´t see any covert moult. Some are later, not that uncommon. But being from Poland, with such a jizz, hybrids do exist, so...

JanJ

haha! i didn't want to throw that hated word in..

namq · Sep 19, 2006

Some photos from my trip to southern Poland (Tatra mountains region).

1 (9055). Honey Buzzard ?
2 (9477). Lesser Spotted Eagle ?
3 (9648). Common Buzzard ?
4 (9893). Meadow Pipit ?
5 (9959). L. cachinnans ?

namq · Sep 19, 2006

Some more:

1 (8860). Common Kestrel ?
2 (8870). Common Buzzard ?
3 (8901). Marsh Harrier f ?
4 (9500). Common Buzzards ?

Thanks in advance for all.

Frenchy · Sep 20, 2006

I'd agree with all of your ID's, except the first one, which i think is also a Common Buzzard. And the Marsh Harrier is a juvenile, and the gulls could be a mix, but i'll leave that one for others.

namq · Sep 30, 2006

Hi again!

Some photos taken today:

1 (1682). Little Grebe ?
2 (1759). Linnet ?
3 & 4 (1794 & 1795). Peregrine Falcon ?

Thanks in advance!

bitterntwisted · Sep 30, 2006

1 and 2 above I'd have as Little Grebe and Linnet alright.

3 & 4 I wouldn't want to call on the basis of these quality shots but it looks plausibly Peregrine-like in 4.

lou salomon · Sep 30, 2006

large falcon, moustacial stripe massive etc --> peregrine (any other option would be very rare too).

gerdwichers8 · Oct 1, 2006

3rd picture shows pale brown upperparts and off white with little buff colouring to the underparts; no patterning to it and a closed 'sjawl' The head shows a crown and nape being white,which means it cant be a Peregrine,
4th picture is probably the same bird and may look like a Peregrine (a bit much actually but if it is the same bird as 3, Ill keep my 'no' instead of a Peregrine)

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