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timwootton · Dec 22, 2010

colleenc said:
like that bottom sketch very much, maybe cropped a bit so we have a bit more bird...

. . . just the one drawing here, I think. Very clever to 'see' this composition in the first place but the working out of the reflections is Pythagorian; at first glance it would appear the reflections are too 'flat' and shallow, but when we factor in the angle of the steep bank and the perspective issues in depth of field, then the calculations are spot-on.
However all this clever mathematics shouldn't overshadow what is a wonderfully naturalistic take on this scene; birds, mud and agriculture combine perfectly. CFT will be smiling down.

colleenc · Dec 23, 2010

really? how silly of me, but this is what I saw and a scratched border at the slightly below mid mark

timwootton · Dec 23, 2010

colleenc said:
really? how silly of me, but this is what I saw and a scratched border at the slightly below mid mark

I know Colleen - I could see that too. After all the deconstruction, maybe I got it totally wrong B

Strandman · Dec 23, 2010

timwootton said:
I know Colleen - I could see that too. After all the deconstruction, maybe I got it totally wrong B

'tis one piece- I saw it had a fold line bang across the middle but decided that since that was mother nature's doing of the river bank, I would allow it

solitaryVSong · Dec 23, 2010

All very interesting! I too saw it as one piece and really loved much of it. But I found my eyes going back and forth like a highly energized ping-pong ball between the verticals at top and the ones at bottom and never having the time to slow down and see anything else.

And yet I didn't know what to say. How could I criticize a drawing that I like so much? I'm not sure if Tim sees it a bit the way I do since he also notes the reflections. But I do think it is a really strong drawing, and it reminds me how much I like Ed's sketches. Maybe just something to tone down the vertical reflections a bit? I'm really not sure. I do think a little time spent staring at this will end up with the basis for one of your best paintings

halftwo · Dec 23, 2010

ed keeble said:
where the cattle stockade reflects in what's left of the open water

colleenc said:
really? how silly of me, but this is what I saw and a scratched border at the slightly below mid mark

I saw two until I re-read Ed's quote, above, now I see the whole.

RussB · Dec 25, 2010

Very interesting piece, Ed. Another fine example, like Ken's recent postings, of something different.
I'm currently 'dabbling' with technical pen as the illustrative road is one I'd really like to take. I'll be posting some efforts in the New Year for your perusal!

Have a great festive time and all the best for the New Year.

Russ

Strandman · Dec 26, 2010

RussB said:
Very interesting piece, Ed. Another fine example, like Ken's recent postings, of something different.
I'm currently 'dabbling' with technical pen as the illustrative road is one I'd really like to take. I'll be posting some efforts in the New Year for your perusal!

Have a great festive time and all the best for the New Year.

Russ

go for it- it would be nice to see another flurry of black n whites

I took the advantage of a Christmas visit to my parents to nick Keeble senior's copy of Ennion's The Lapwing which I am now lovingly skimming thru for learnings and inspirings

also briefly took a pot at the pic that was Teal, now SEO and hopefully did justice to some of the wise comments upthread:

now time get out and about for some new images

solitaryVSong · Dec 29, 2010

ed keeble said:
go for it- it would be nice to see another flurry of black n whites

I took the advantage of a Christmas visit to my parents to nick Keeble senior's copy of Ennion's The Lapwing which I am now lovingly skimming thru for learnings and inspirings

also briefly took a pot at the pic that was Teal, now SEO and hopefully did justice to some of the wise comments upthread:

now time get out and about for some new images

I think your thread must have gotten buried Ed. Otherwise there would be more comments about what a beautiful painting this is! Really strong I think. And now the owl seems perfectly placed. A real beauty!

timwootton · Dec 29, 2010

Yes it is - I forgot to mention that.

colleenc · Dec 29, 2010

much improved Ed, you did lift it up and show the beauty of that moment.

How do you feel about it? what pleases you or doesn't?

JTMB · Dec 31, 2010

I like the result on the owl piece, Ed!

However, I must say that I found the fence-and-bird sketch wonderfully unique! At first I saw it as two pieces, but then the actual scene popped out and it was very impressive. That's a complicated image to sketch but the result was well worth it.

Have a very happy new year!

Strandman · Dec 31, 2010

colleenc said:
How do you feel about it? what pleases you or doesn't?

that's a good question Colleen - I got pleased with the owl, once with everyone's help it was safely resized and nudged up towards the top left

but colourwise, the pic as whole is still too far on the garish side of expressive: too much paint straight from the tube

moving along, I have some waxwings on the go- I heroically waited and left local-ish birds untwitched until there was a flock right on home territory, these feeding at eye level against a dark background

basic background is in place, with some green moss to go on the main branches and a curtain of brighter branches and berries to go in front of it all-oh and the birds to be done

very happy new year to all

solitaryVSong · Jan 2, 2011

Looking forward to seeing the results Ed. Happy New Year.

colleenc · Jan 2, 2011

you have a very original vision of things Ed....I've found not every thing that catches my eye, or makes a good photo even will make a great painting...and I never know until I try....maybe after one has done realism for 20 years the eye would be developed and the skills to match, to know ahead of time...

nickderry · Jan 7, 2011

these waxwings look very exciting indeed. The sketch is a finished piece in its own right.

RussB · Jan 8, 2011

Excellent stuff, Ed! What strong, eye-catching and vibrant work. If only I could be as adventrous as this! 2B now welded to my right hand.

Russ

username · Jan 8, 2011

nickderry said:
these waxwings look very exciting indeed. The sketch is a finished piece in its own right.

I can only echo these comments...[and maybe add the word 'marvelous']....!

ps....we have a lot of Waxwings in Leicestershire at the moment but so nomadic are they that trying to catch up with them is like trying to catch the proverbial wind....:smoke:

JTMB · Jan 8, 2011

I echo Nick's comment about the sketch being a finished piece - wonderful! You've captured the sense of a waxwing flock as its own bustling entity, more than just the sum of the individual birds.

timwootton · Jan 8, 2011

JTMB said:
a waxwing flock as its own bustling entity, more than just the sum of the individual birds.

Nice words . . .

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