tizziec said:Sure looks liek a semipalmated my guess would be juvenile
Mike Pennington said:THis side of the Atlantic the default is Ringed Plover and just to clear things, this is what JanJ, Jane Turner etc. are saying by posting the links. This bird doesn't really look like Semi-P and is in fact just a Ringed Plover.
bitterntwisted said:Is that what they are saying, Mike? That's not what I read. Jan? Jane? Andrew? Deborah?
You guys all know WAY more than me but I don't think this is a Ringed Plover. On examining the evidence here I was convinced this little feller must have semi-palmated tootsies. Only when I checked the range and vagrancy likelihood did I have doubts. But of course we could well have the old single-picture problem. Got any more, Mick? Even if they are not as "good".
Graham
bitterntwisted said:Is that what they are saying, Mike? That's not what I read. Jan? Jane? Andrew? Deborah?
You guys all know WAY more than me but I don't think this is a Ringed Plover. On examining the evidence here I was convinced this little feller must have semi-palmated tootsies. Only when I checked the range and vagrancy likelihood did I have doubts. But of course we could well have the old single-picture problem. Got any more, Mick? Even if they are not as "good".
Graham
Jane Turner said:Semi-P plover is one of those species with a suite of subjective features that can overlap with Ringed Plover. The three clinchers - call, the palmations and the wing bar are not evident in the pics. Without them its a non-starter and the default option of 1st w Ringed Plover comes into play
Why? I can't see anything on that bird that eliminates Ringed Plover, which, as the common species, needs to be safely ruled out before even considering anything else. If someone can do that from this photo, then I'll gratefully learn something.bitterntwisted said:<snip>...I don't think this is a Ringed Plover.
Jane Turner said:Here are some RPs
http://www.blueskybirds.co.uk/photos/rp101005i.jpg
http://avesphoto.com/website/pictures/PLVCRG-4.jpg
http://www.milvus.ro/images/Charhia.jpg
http://www.alsirhan.com/Birds/images/Ringed_plover2.jpg
and a nice comparison
http://www.ixobrychus-drustvo.si/portal/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=791