leptochila
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Looks like a sneaky back-cross to me. That lip is just too Common Spotted shaped to not have some influence but otherwise it's primary Southern Marsh.
Mike
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2017 UK orchids (1 Viewer)
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Looks like a sneaky back-cross to me. That lip is just too Common Spotted shaped to not have some influence but otherwise it's primary Southern Marsh.
Mike
Gareth Stamp
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Hi Mike,
It was very strongly scented just like the fragrants with it. Are southern marsh normally strongly scented?
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Gareth
It was very strongly scented just like the fragrants with it. Are southern marsh normally strongly scented?
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Gareth
rmielcarek
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No they aren't. Spur looks quite long? And there don't seem to be many bracts for a Dact?
Rich M
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Gareth Stamp
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Hi Rich,
Yes very long spurs. My initial impression was southern marsh x fragrant orchid hybrid - long spurs, strongly scented, narrow basal leaf and shape of flower head was more like fragrant orchid.
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Gareth
Yes very long spurs. My initial impression was southern marsh x fragrant orchid hybrid - long spurs, strongly scented, narrow basal leaf and shape of flower head was more like fragrant orchid.
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Gareth
rmielcarek
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I agree it looks like a Fragrant hybrid. Not so sure about the other parent, looked at my pics of SMO x MF from Kenfig and the lip on those looks totally different. I wondered about CSO?
Rich
Marford Quarry
Following the discovery of the large colony of E dunensis at Alyn Waters in 2011, odd plants have been found at sites downwind from Alyn Waters, for example by Muba at Delamere. Examples were identified at Marford Quarry a couple of years ago and a colony is now developing there, with plants in the birch woodland and in the open areas. This was photographed 8th July. In response to Muba’s post above referring to this site, I can say categorically that these plants are new to the site, there was previously a small group of plants on the fringe of the woodland but nothing in the open areas or around the defunct pond, where I saw this plant.
Jeff Hodgson
Following the discovery of the large colony of E dunensis at Alyn Waters in 2011, odd plants have been found at sites downwind from Alyn Waters, for example by Muba at Delamere. Examples were identified at Marford Quarry a couple of years ago and a colony is now developing there, with plants in the birch woodland and in the open areas. This was photographed 8th July. In response to Muba’s post above referring to this site, I can say categorically that these plants are new to the site, there was previously a small group of plants on the fringe of the woodland but nothing in the open areas or around the defunct pond, where I saw this plant.
Jeff Hodgson
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leptochila
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muba
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These must have been present at Marford for more than a couple of years.
But I saw a lot of young plants coming on there too.
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Simon,
They may not be there this year. I was over at Grays Quarry, photographing the man orchids at the end of May. I met a local who had seen GFH in the past and we went to look for them in the woods at the bottom of the quarry, to the south west of the lake near the quarry walls. We failed to find any and they should have been visible by then, because my local colony near Sevenoaks was well up. Your mailbox is full, so I couldn't pm you more details.
Dave
Gareth Stamp
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Yellow broad leaved helleborine
I found this yellowy broad leaved helleborine in a dark beech woodland among 60 normal green blh's. It was more yellow in the field, the photo doesn't quite bring out the colour. Sadly the flower head just went brown and withered away. Is this just an aberrant example?
I found this yellowy broad leaved helleborine in a dark beech woodland among 60 normal green blh's. It was more yellow in the field, the photo doesn't quite bring out the colour. Sadly the flower head just went brown and withered away. Is this just an aberrant example?
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rmielcarek
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Probably just suffering from a chlorophyll deficiency, maybe because of stress caused by the dry conditions (hence why the buds withered). Alternative is it has some genetic imbalance, in which case it will be yellowy each year.
Rich
Green-flowerd Helleborine
I have struggled long and hard to get a half-presentable photograph of an individual floret of this plant so off I went this morning with more hope than expectation and in the end I’m reasonably satisfied. I had a bash at more than one plant and didn’t notice till after I got home that the second plant has variegated leaves. Now I have to go and try to find this plant again to take a portrait as opposed to a close-up. (I was so engaged with trying to get a proper photo, in a horizontal position under a hawthorn, that I didn’t notice the variegation at the time)
Jeff Hodgson
I have struggled long and hard to get a half-presentable photograph of an individual floret of this plant so off I went this morning with more hope than expectation and in the end I’m reasonably satisfied. I had a bash at more than one plant and didn’t notice till after I got home that the second plant has variegated leaves. Now I have to go and try to find this plant again to take a portrait as opposed to a close-up. (I was so engaged with trying to get a proper photo, in a horizontal position under a hawthorn, that I didn’t notice the variegation at the time)
Jeff Hodgson
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rmielcarek
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Epipactis x schulzei
Both of these are E. x schulzei, the hybrid between Broad-leaved and Violet helleborines.
The photos were taken between 10th and 20th July and show how the flowers age. The name of the photo shows which plant and the date taken.
Rich M
Both of these are E. x schulzei, the hybrid between Broad-leaved and Violet helleborines.
The photos were taken between 10th and 20th July and show how the flowers age. The name of the photo shows which plant and the date taken.
Rich M
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