New product at Swarovski European Launch Tour (1 Viewer)

dipped · Jan 3, 2017

Let the speculation begin, unusually Spring rather than the Autumn Birdfair will see the launch of something new from Swarovski.

See Minsmere event : http://www.rspb.org.uk/reserves-and...spiration/events/details.aspx?id=tcm:9-433700

The only rumours I've heard is that something big=expensive (beyond most peoples budgets), is coming.

A2GG · Jan 3, 2017

cool ... thanks for the info.

edwincjones · Jan 3, 2017

20x60 SW IS at twice the price of the Zeiss ?

Alexis Powell · Jan 3, 2017

Given that they've presently forfeited the premium compact pocket roof market to Leica and Zeiss, it would make more sense to me that they come out with something very small in the near future. How about a 7x20 with flat field and superb ergonomics?! Failing that, I'd like to see the 8.5x42 EL SV updated with variable-ratio focus. C'mon Swarovski!

--AP

Troubador · Jan 4, 2017

Whatever it is might appear at SHOT show in mid January.
Or IWA in early March.
Lee

A2GG · Jan 5, 2017

Maybe a new SLC and that's why they are being drastically discounted right now.

arran · Jan 5, 2017

Let us make a guess:a new twin telescope based on the atx scopes.
Just refering to the old highly collectable twins 30x75.
This for an estimated price level of 4999€
Definitely not a new or improved slc or fieldpro

RobMorane · Jan 5, 2017

I would second Gilmore Girl about a new SLC.

I find that very strange that the SLC 10x56 and 15x56 W B are not available
to order anymore on the European Swarovski website, whatever the country selected.

The 8x56 is still available though.
So maybe a 12x50 or 12x56?

Hermann · Jan 5, 2017

arran said:
Let us make a guess:a new twin telescope based on the atx scopes.
Just refering to the old highly collectable twins 30x75.
This for an estimated price level of 4999€
Definitely not a new or improved slc or fieldpro

Either that or "something" with a stabilizer, I think.

Hermann

dipped · Jan 5, 2017

arran said:
Let us make a guess:a new twin telescope based on the atx scopes.
Just refering to the old highly collectable twins 30x75.
This for an estimated price level of 4999€
Definitely not a new or improved slc or fieldpro

Could be or an even bigger TX module to give higher powers than the current 95mm objective.

Strangely my original link seems to have disappeared but here's a cached copy:
https://webcache.googleusercontent....spx?id=tcm:9-433700+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

RobMorane · Jan 5, 2017

This "Launch" gives a new insight to the post from Den mid April named "New Swarovski 8 to 12x zoom binoculars?" :

I just completed a marketing questioner for Swarovski in which a lot of the questions asked if I would prefer an 8 to 12 x zoom binocular over a traditional 10x if they were a little heavier in weight. This makes me wonder if they are not considering making an 8 to 12x zoom binocular. If they were good optically and weighed around 33 oz. I would definitely be interested.

So what would it be then?
If the SLC 10x56 and 15x56 are "gone" and not the 8x,
the new product would be what?

An SLC 10-15 x 56 ?

edwincjones · Jan 6, 2017

RobMorane said:
This "Launch" gives a new insight to the post from Den mid April named "New Swarovski 8 to 12x zoom binoculars?" :

So what would it be then?
If the SLC 10x56 and 15x56 are "gone" and not the 8x,
the new product would be what?

An SLC 10-15 x 56 ?

why-my leica 10+15x50 is a very good,
but not very popular
is there an unseen market?

edj

Troubador · Jan 6, 2017

edwincjones said:
why-my leica 10+15x50 is a very good,
but not very popular
is there an unseen market?

edj

EDJ
If the new Swaro was a true zoom ie smooth change of magnification all the way from 10x to 15x then it would be different from your Leica.

Lee

etudiant · Jan 7, 2017

Troubador said:
EDJ
If the new Swaro was a true zoom ie smooth change of magnification all the way from 10x to 15x then it would be different from your Leica.

Lee

Would it not be quite expensive to coordinate two zoom lenses?
I'd love the idea, ideally a wide angle 6x zooming up to 12-15x, but wonder how feasible that would be.
A single zoom lens with a binoviewer at the end would be easier to make, but still not cheap. Plus it would probably be excommunicated by the birding community, which is skeptical of innovation.

Troubador · Jan 7, 2017

etudiant said:
Would it not be quite expensive to coordinate two zoom lenses?
I'd love the idea, ideally a wide angle 6x zooming up to 12-15x, but wonder how feasible that would be.
A single zoom lens with a binoviewer at the end would be easier to make, but still not cheap. Plus it would probably be excommunicated by the birding community, which is skeptical of innovation.

Yes I think you are right.
Somehow I don't see Swaro doing this.

Lee

edwincjones · Jan 7, 2017

Troubador said:
EDJ
If the new Swaro was a true zoom ie smooth change of magnification all the way from 10x to 15x then it would be different from your Leica.

Lee

10 + 15 is different than 10-15,
but is the market demand different

edj

edwincjones · Jan 7, 2017

arran said:
Let us make a guess:a new twin telescope based on the atx scopes.
Just refering to the old highly collectable twins 30x75.
This for an estimated price level of 4999€
.........../QUOTE]

Bigger sounds better, until one thinks of weight and transport through the fields;
does anyone know sale numbers between the 95, 85, 65mm options?

dalat · Jan 7, 2017

Troubador said:
If the new Swaro was a true zoom ie smooth change of magnification all the way from 10x to 15x then it would be different from your Leica.

I think the problems of the Duovids are not so much the lack of smooth change of magnification, but rather their weight and narrow FOV.

kabsetz · Jan 7, 2017

edwincjones said:
arran said:

Let us make a guess:a new twin telescope based on the atx scopes.
Just refering to the old highly collectable twins 30x75.
This for an estimated price level of 4999€
.........../QUOTE]

Bigger sounds better, until one thinks of weight and transport through the fields;
does anyone know sale numbers between the 95, 85, 65mm options?

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I don't know the figures, but here in Finland, nearly all of the ATX scopes I see in the field are the 95. My educated guess is that for every 65 or 85 they sell here they sell about 10 95's.

Kimmo

edwincjones · Jan 7, 2017

dalat said:
I think the problems of the Duovids are not so much the lack of smooth change of magnification, but rather their weight and narrow FOV.

Those are my complaints, along with cost;
but I think the benefits outweigh these issues.
Usually 10x is ok with raptors and shore birds
but sure is nice to have the 15x option.

edj

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