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Hobby Vs Peregrine New forest, UK (1 Viewer)

stevetb

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I assumed this was a peregrine down to size and wing/tail shape, but now that someone has told me it was a hobby, im not so sure....
Isn't it a bit late for a hobby? This was taken today, in the new forest, southern england. It was flying around heathland.
Although hobbies frequent the forest, peregrines and merlins come down in the winter.

Apologies for the blurry ones, most of these weren't meant for the internet.

Thanks in advance.
 
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but now that someone has told me it was a hobby, im not so sure....

That would be me.I did only see the Hobbyish second pic though and had no idea of size.I am just making excuses now so excuse me while I leave hanging my head in shame (lol).
 
This here bird is 100% a hobby. For instance, it has streaked underparts (as opposed to barred), and you can see the reddish vent on pic 2. Peregrine has a shorter tail, too.
 
This here bird is 100% a hobby. For instance, it has streaked underparts (as opposed to barred), and you can see the reddish vent on pic 2. Peregrine has a shorter tail, too.


juvenile peregrines are streaked underneath, only the adults are barred. Hobby could never be as bulky as this bird is. Even if pic 2 does look rakish, the other pics confirm it as a peregrine.
 
I recall a thread from a few years back... but this is a definite Peregrine, for reasons stated.
Also a bit late for Hobbies now: they left Herts a few weeks ago.
 
Some really good images of a juvenile Peregrine Falcon showing the compact body with a full-breasted impression and larger head together with more obviously broader arm and narrow hand in these images.

Juvenile Peregrine, note shape and barred undertail coverts:

http://www.tarsiger.com/images/jukka/peregrine1127.jpg

http://www.tarsiger.com/images/linto/FalperKI6W8812.jpg

http://www.tarsiger.com/images/Bruun/fal_per_0904.jpg

Hobby, note shape and unmarked undertail coverts (some can have streaks - not barred:

http://www.netfugl.dk/pictures.php?id=showpicture&picture_id=13295

JanJ
 
This in my humble opinion is a juvenile peregrine. The upper body shows a deep barrel chest and the talons look like those which I would expect of a peregrine.

Aytha-Hybrid...the apparent red vent is in fact a bit of digital noise which is sometimes seen in shadow areas of digital captures. I do not think you would find a red vent on a juvenile hobby, the vent would be buff if it were a hobby IMHO.
 
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