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Nikon DS eyepieces (1 Viewer)
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NoSpringChicken
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Yes. They were designed to be used with a digiscoping adapter. The rubber eyecup can be attached to enable them to be used for normal viewing if required.
Ron
mooreorless
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Hi Graham, I have both the 16-24-30 and the 27-40-50 DS eyepieces. With the rubber skirt pushed into "normal" position these work good while wearing glasses. I can pull these out from normal position and use them W/O glasses. These DS eyepieces are not quite as user friendly as the MC turn-slide type eyepieces. I only have the MCII Zoom eyepiece. I hope this helps some.
mooreorless
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mooreorless
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Thanks Rick! I thought to get an o-ring big enough but tight enough to stay in place below the rubber skirt as a stop.
mikefreiberg
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Hey everyone,
I personally have used the 30x WA DS eyepiece for much of my viewing when I was using the Fieldscope III line. The size of the ocular really appealed to me and made this much more comfortable.
Best,
Mike Freiberg
Nikon Birding Market Specialist
I personally have used the 30x WA DS eyepiece for much of my viewing when I was using the Fieldscope III line. The size of the ocular really appealed to me and made this much more comfortable.
Best,
Mike Freiberg
Nikon Birding Market Specialist
Kevin Conville
yardbirder
I find them perfectly comfortable for visual use and, btw, they have no more eye relief than the MC wide versions of the same focal length.
I usually recommend the DS versions over their MC counterparts (if both are available) as they are easier to use for digiscoping due to the flange configuration and leave nothing behind, sans twist-up eyecup, for visual.
Personally, I don't care about the eyecup.
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mayoayo
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You are partly right and partly wrong about the facts, the rest is of course opinion...The 16x24x23x DS is shown in Nikon web site specification sheet as having 18.7 mm of eye relief and the original MC 24x-30X has only 15.1 mm .The other two DS models have the same eye relief in the MC version..I was making reference to that particular model
The 16X24x30x has a different optical formula,improved to match the long eye relief of All the other nikon WA eyepieces.The extra eye relief is an improvement for both digiscoping and visual use,and in that fact is better than the previous model,.
..What Mike is saying is that is the SIZE of the DS ocular is what makes visual use MUCH more comfortable...Is about that statement,That I dont think that many users would agree..
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Kevin Conville
yardbirder
Indeed you are right about the MC16x. I'd forgotten about that EP as it rarely comes up, and I'd never seen one. I seem to remember that Nikon doesn't recommend that EP for use with the ED50, for some reason.
Jason Bugay Reyes
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I like the DS eyepiece last time when I had the ED82. Very comfy with and without the supplied rubber eyecup. But because most of the time the Digiscoping adapter attached with the DS eyepiece, I never used the eyecup anymore hehehe
mayoayo
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Thats Why is not called the MC16x ,but the 24X-30X MC WA..As a matter of fact is the basic wide design,and all the other MC WA models are based in this eyepiece,but with a barlow element ,of different sizes,added to them..for that reason is considerable shorter and perhaps the focal point is different..My guess is that the infinity focus in the ED50 is too close to the end to allow for all users to reach infinity without corrected vision..that or slight vignetting..
In anycase those 3.6mm of extra eye relief can make a difference for eyeglass users,and for digiscoping,because 15mm is a bit tight ..for that reason alone the DS version can be better..But not based on size ,ergonomic or overall design...Ergonomics are bad in the DS,and although you can argue that you find them perfectly useful to look through ,I have another question for You...
Have You tried to put the Ocular cover on the DS eyepiece with the Rubber eyeguard On?..You find that also comfortable and proper fit?
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Kevin Conville
yardbirder
Yeah, it doesn't fit too well. I guess I have pretty low expectations for these things as as I only use them when putting the scope away. "Comfortable" isn't a word I'd choose to apply to it however, whether in the positive or negative.
I guess I sort of have "love goggles" for the DS EPs as I do a bit of digiscoping, when out birding visually, and the technique I use allows for the eyeguard to stay on and is very quick and simple.
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=138637
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looksharp65
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As an owner of both the 27x/40x/50x Wide MC and the 27x/40x/50x Wide DS, I can say that I find the DS slightly easier to use with spectacles.
But the huge diameter of the DS requires that I turn my head slightly to the left, because my nose hits the left side of the ocular. Considering the fact that my IPD is 67 mm, I can understand that the DS eyepieces can be troublesome for some users with smaller IPDs.
//L
But the huge diameter of the DS requires that I turn my head slightly to the left, because my nose hits the left side of the ocular. Considering the fact that my IPD is 67 mm, I can understand that the DS eyepieces can be troublesome for some users with smaller IPDs.
//L
mayoayo
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Obviously the design was aimed to make a line of eyepieces for digiscoping with the Nikon line of adapters ,and for that they are very good..Actually the Huge diameter of the ocular ,intended as a base for the adapters ,adds stability to the camera,and I am sure this was the idea behind the shape..I like the DS eyepieces alright, got used to their shape,and found them good for digiscoping ,but for the main use I gave to my scopes, observation and field sketching, they got in the way at times.
Without caring too much about accessories either , I like to put the covers in the scope and toss it in my backpack when im moving around in the field..I like to do it as fast and easily as that simple operation could be done ,sometimes in cold mornings with my gloves on and with cold fingers..Is a simple detail ,but the cover of the DS eyepieces is Hard to use,adding to the Visual-Use unfriendly design..... IMHO
Without caring too much about accessories either , I like to put the covers in the scope and toss it in my backpack when im moving around in the field..I like to do it as fast and easily as that simple operation could be done ,sometimes in cold mornings with my gloves on and with cold fingers..Is a simple detail ,but the cover of the DS eyepieces is Hard to use,adding to the Visual-Use unfriendly design..... IMHO
Not sure what other’s do, but I recently invested in my first DS eyepiece (to add to my 30x MC for my ED82, 27x MC for my ED50, and MCii zoom), and I found the rubber eyecup very unfriendly for general viewing use as it isn’t easy to slide into the right position, and it doesn’t stay there when pushed to any degree, or when the cap is put on.
My solution is to take the glass out of an old filter, and seat the ring inside the rubber cup, and then put this onto the eyepiece. This gives a nice firm seating and removes entirely the fiddly nature of having to put into the right position for viewing.
Hopefully that will be some use to someone, unless of course I have just thought up the same idea everyone already uses :-O
My solution is to take the glass out of an old filter, and seat the ring inside the rubber cup, and then put this onto the eyepiece. This gives a nice firm seating and removes entirely the fiddly nature of having to put into the right position for viewing.
Hopefully that will be some use to someone, unless of course I have just thought up the same idea everyone already uses :-O
