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Can anyone help with this? Wood or Icterine Warbler (1 Viewer)
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Rob Smallwood
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I think it might be a Yellow Wagtail?
John Dixon
Well-known member
Rob Smallwood said:
No, that's a Phyllosc. It might be a Wood Warbler, or a bright Willow - was it calling/singing?
John
Pluvius
Well-known member
Bird Identification dont you just love it.
Having read all my bird id books my guess would be Wood Warbler in that Icterine are generally found in the tops of trees and this looks as though its in brambles. Definately not easy.
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Having read all my bird id books my guess would be Wood Warbler in that Icterine are generally found in the tops of trees and this looks as though its in brambles. Definately not easy.
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MSA
I may be relaxed but I'm not drunk....
The bright yellow in supercilium and particularly the wing panels suggest Wood Warbler, but the apparent white throat/chin looks odd - very hard to call on this photo as colour reproduction does not quite ring true, also pic is blurred, and in any case different monitors show different colours/shades!
Pluvius said:
Then again, Wood Warblers are usually found in the tops of trees too. Think we need a bit more description with this one, although I don't think it's an Icky.
Woodchatshrike
Registered User
Looks like a Wood Warbler. It looks like the picture was taken in bright sunlight. I think they get Wood warblers at the Lodge from time to time. It is still a tad early for Iccy.
Wood warblers do look a little Hippoish to me. (Bulky looking with a slightly thicker looking bill)
Must be the angle of the picture because the tail does look squared off.
I've seen mainly autumn birds in recent years. You don't see them very often up here!
One of my favourites I must admit...
Wood warblers do look a little Hippoish to me. (Bulky looking with a slightly thicker looking bill)
Must be the angle of the picture because the tail does look squared off.
I've seen mainly autumn birds in recent years. You don't see them very often up here!
One of my favourites I must admit...
Andrew Rowlands
Well-known member
Tail and head shape doesn't fit a Phyllosc very well.
Andy.
Andy.
neilbaldwin
New member
Thanks for the replies. I did not hear it sing, and the photo was taken in haste Canon 100-400 with 2xTC!!!!!
It had dropped down to the brambles to be near the feeders, at the hide. That might explain why not in tree tops.
It had dropped down to the brambles to be near the feeders, at the hide. That might explain why not in tree tops.
James Lowther
Well-known member
Aren't wood warblers supposed to have short tails
JANJ
Well-known member
Image impression! Doesn´t strike me as a Wood Warbler. Look at the primary projection, to short! Tail to long! Tertials usually more contrasting dark with clear-cut pale edges and a much more obvious dark eye-stripe. Rarley show a whitish throat.
http://www.jbo.org.il/News/31.3.05.htm
http://www.lincsbirdclub.co.uk/rare_birds/wood_warbler.htm
JanJ
http://www.jbo.org.il/News/31.3.05.htm
http://www.lincsbirdclub.co.uk/rare_birds/wood_warbler.htm
JanJ
Jane Turner
Well-known member
Hmm. Well its no Icky. Assuming its a Wood Warbler on all the bright fringes, where did the wings go! Does it really have pale lores or is that a photographic effect. Can't make it into a Bonellis, not even with the aid of Thai Whisky!
It might just be an over exposed and unusually bright Willow Warbler.
It might just be an over exposed and unusually bright Willow Warbler.
jforgham
Birding for fun
Hi all,
I'd go for willow warbler. Wing/tail length already discussed as have been head shape and bill. However, compare colour of shoot upper right of bird which is showing bright yellow lime and that could then explain that the bird, where showing the same yellowy hue is in fact considerably greener/browner and so rather rapidly becomes willow warbler. Reflection of green shades in bush/tree may be reason for bright colouring. Not correct for wood wrbler for sevral reasons and forehead not angled for Icterine.
Interesting dilemma though. May need to check on another monitor to compare colours, but at present is an impossible yellow.
Jono
I'd go for willow warbler. Wing/tail length already discussed as have been head shape and bill. However, compare colour of shoot upper right of bird which is showing bright yellow lime and that could then explain that the bird, where showing the same yellowy hue is in fact considerably greener/browner and so rather rapidly becomes willow warbler. Reflection of green shades in bush/tree may be reason for bright colouring. Not correct for wood wrbler for sevral reasons and forehead not angled for Icterine.
Interesting dilemma though. May need to check on another monitor to compare colours, but at present is an impossible yellow.
Jono
Edward woodwood
Member
Willow Warbler
Tim
Tim
hannu
Well-known member
JANJ said:
Definately Phyllosc, wood or willow, but really difficult say, which one ?
* The primary projection is enough long for wood > 7 primary tips, maybe view angle mislead us
* obvious dark eye-stripe > not always, sometimes only some kind of spot in the front of eye, see:
http://www.tarsiger.com/images/masa/Physib09.jpg
* tail looks really long, but bird positon and view angle can emphasize it too much ? (also because wings shows different direction than tail)
* whitish throat > that's odd for wood, but it can be sometimes paler than rich yellow.
* In my mind, the colour of tail and wings are quite odd for willow
Very interesting case,...
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lou salomon
the birdonist
nobody mentioned, wood has a notched tail, this bird doesn't. it's a willow.
