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Is it a GARDEN WARBLER (1 Viewer)

When was this taken? It looks more like a Willow Warbler to me, based on the head structure, the head pattern and the primary projection.
 
Willow Warbler for me too, for the same reasons as given by Jane above. Have once seen the species this late, at Owenahincha on a West Cork bird race...another team had one at Clonakilty the same day....
Regards,
Harry
 
JimMorris said:
I'm not sure on this one, I think it may be a garden warbler can someone confirm this
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Just a few thoughts...
Surely that pp is too short for WW? Should be at least equal to the exposed tertial length to be a WW and this is clearly shorter. Although leg colour can vary, surely wing formula is always consistent? I would expect a WW to have at least some yellow or greeny yellow in the plumage too.
I would agree that structurally it looks a bit wierd for a Chiff though, quite long and with a more WW like head pattern.
Maybe the habitat is a clue too; Chiffs are often on the ground or low down.

Jono Leadley
 
Jono L said:
Just a few thoughts...
Surely that pp is too short for WW? Should be at least equal to the exposed tertial length to be a WW and this is clearly shorter. Although leg colour can vary, surely wing formula is always consistent? I would expect a WW to have at least some yellow or greeny yellow in the plumage too.
I would agree that structurally it looks a bit wierd for a Chiff though, quite long and with a more WW like head pattern.
Maybe the habitat is a clue too; Chiffs are often on the ground or low down.

Jono Leadley
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And now I have looked at the tarsiger short winged WW and answered my question. Doh!
 
Jane Turner said:
Its also got a very rounded (Chiff-like) wing. Weird bird. I'd like to see it in the field.

J.Moss take a look at this
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=15579
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And notice p6 not emarginated. Strangely p5 seems to be longer than p4 while p2 being as long as p6 is alright, usually p2 is 5/6 or = 6, uncommonly =6/7 exceptionally = 5

In Chiffchaff
p2 =6/8, uncommonly = 8, exceptionally = 8/9

JanJ
 
JANJ said:
And notice p6 not emarginated. Strangely p5 seems to be longer than p4 while p2 being as long as p6 is alright, usually p2 is 5/6 or = 6, uncommonly =6/7 exceptionally = 5

In Chiffchaff
p2 =6/8, uncommonly = 8, exceptionally = 8/9

JanJ
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I'll bear all that in mind next time I'm struggling to get a proper look at one in the back of a bush, Jan! ;)
 
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