John M Robinson
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John,
You are absolutely right.
It's just that, me telling you it's made in..... while I know better, is a different story.
Jan (Dutch for John)
Thanks Jan (John).🙂
John,
You are absolutely right.
It's just that, me telling you it's made in..... while I know better, is a different story.
Jan (Dutch for John)
Thank you, just the bino to bino comparison I was looking for. I took my buddy in with a $1,000 budget. We limited ourselves to the two Trinovid 42's, 8 and 10, and the 8 and 10x42 Conquest. Neither of us wear glasses, so eye relief wasn't a factor, though I have deep set eyes and got blackouts with the 10x42 Conquest. This was for Eric though. After trying all four for an hour in fading daylight, to his eye the 8x42 Trinnie was the clear winner. That's when I asked about the new Trinovid HD which this store didn't have yet.
At that point the store dropped the price for the old 8x42 from $945 to $860 and the 10x42 from $999 to $900 even. I didn't realize the older version was much more expensive, and that this was a considerable discount. In reading various online reviews, they mention the new HD's using a slightly cheaper glass, but perhaps better coatings? Regardless, we both really liked that 8x42 so I bought it for him. I haven't tested them extensively side by side, but at first look that Trinnie is very close if not equal to my beloved 8x42 Ultravid BR's.
The store still has one remaining 10x42 at $900.00 if anybody is interested. I don't need it, have a nice Nikon 10x42 SE, but for that price I might not be able to resist.
Regarding the built in Japan, disassembled and reassembled in Portugal, that's weird, but Japanese optics are very good, so I wouldn't care either way.
I have investigated the Trinovid HD recently (the testreport is published in Dutch on the WEB-site of House of Outdoor). Everything pointed in my opinion to the following: Like the Conquest HD's the new Trinovid HD is completely made in Asia, most likely in Japan and is, like the Conquests, assembled there, taken apart in easy to re-assemble parts, so the re-assembling in Portugal is an easy job and can be done quickly.
Leica is responsible for service and repairs. I am looking forward to solid facts that prove that our conclusions are wrong.
Gijs van Ginkel
Using Google Translate (I'll consider learning Dutch a bit later) you get the main message, and as an added bonus the results are almost guaranteed to be funny, such as:
"The grip could be good if it were not the eyes of the viewer belt painful fall into the hands of the mouse".
Gijs: did you let a mouse try the bins?
With regard to the Meostar B1 7x42: if I remember well the attachment rings for the binocular straps were built so that they were not sticking out at all, but I can not check it right now since I returned the binoculars after the test.
Gijs van Ginkel
Indeed the "mouse" had problems with the Opticron, not the Meostar.
Lee:
Sorry to be argumentative, but
Meopta: "never painful"
Opticron: "painful"
The difference is clear to me, I hope you see it too.
I know this deviates from the topic, but it was really funny.
Cheers,
Peter
Not so dear Pesto, it turns out that this hard-working mouse had issues with the Meopta, the Opticron and the Zeiss, and on the Opticron review it was joined by a European Canary:
Meopta
smooth concealed the viewer house eyelets for binoculars belt, so that those never painful fall into the hand mouse
Opticron
The grip would be good if it was unable to that the eyes of the viewer painful belt in mouse
You also want to avoid accidentally verschuift, giving you the risk is that you
European canary, you had never seen, blurry gets into the picture.
Zeiss
the eye for the viewer belt are positioned so that they not in the mouse of drop the hand
This is a side to Utrecht of which we were previously unaware Gijs.
Lee
Naughty Leica (if indeed true).
Who or what can you trust nowadays?
It doesn't sound like that great a buy anyhow. At least with a Chinese bin like my UK Hawke you know it's Chinese, ok with a UK design, maybe.
Anyhow the Chinese make very good bins now so where it's made doesn't really matter as long as it's good. I have several Chinese bins and they really are excellent for the money though having been an industrial engineer at one time I do lament the loss of manufacturing in Europe but there you go, bye bye jobs to China long since, hello poverty and unemployment. Once we become a third world we might get some crumbs back.
The rubber doesn't look of Japanese manufacture. I would guess German. It's a curious thing, but European plastic and rubber found in things like Audi interiors always has an aesthetic the Japanese struggle to match.