Australian hawks, Thornbill and ? (1 Viewer)

Greg McKay

I like the pretty colors

• Feb 13, 2013

• #1

4 more from Hatth Kulkyne N.P Victoria.
It was a great couple of days for those interested.
We managed to find and photograph Mallee fowl and Mallee emu wren. 2 raries and hard to find

I need help confirmation with these raptors and thornbills though.
The raptors judging by the long middle to I believe to be Brown goshawks as opposed to Collared Sparrowhawks. (different birds)

The yellow bird I reckon is a Yellow Thornbill and I thought the last photo to be of a brown thornbill but the white spots on the underside of the tail feathers suggest not?

 

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John_WA

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• Feb 13, 2013

• #2

Mallee Emu-wren is a good get, nice!

The raptors look like Brown Goshawk to me - look very similar in tail moult, any chance they could be the same bird?

The yellow bird is a Weebill, they get yellower inland I think, note the pale eyebrow and stubby bill

Not so sure about the last one at this point, thornbill sp.

 

Greg McKay

I like the pretty colors

• Feb 13, 2013

• #3

John

2 different birds
One taken by the wife out of the car window 50km from the other.

Do you like the Emu wren?

 

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Chosun Juan

Given to Fly

• Feb 13, 2013

• #4

Greg,

I think the two hawks are Brown Goshawks - they look thick enough through the rear, and the heads project nicely. I think the ratty tails just scrape in too. The middle toe is long, but on a Collared Sparrowhawk would be even longer (2x).

Don't have enough info on hand for the other two, and the colours look a bit super-saturated or something, but from memory, I think all the yellow thornbills I've seen were yellower than any of the weebills I've seen. Ditto gerygones.


Chosun :gh:

 

John_WA

Well-known member

• Feb 14, 2013

• #5

Greg McKay said:

John

2 different birds
One taken by the wife out of the car window 50km from the other.

Do you like the Emu wren?

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Very much :t:. Hopefully will get over for a look for them in the next couple of years!

Interesting that the two birds look to be in very similar tail moult, guess it's that time of year

 

Greg McKay

I like the pretty colors

• Feb 14, 2013

• #6

Guys
teh 4th bird still confuses me
It looks like a Thornbill but the tail suggest maybe Gerygone but even the spots on the undertail I can't find a match to.
Help me pleeeeeease

 

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Greg McKay

I like the pretty colors

• Feb 17, 2013

• #7

Hi all
No takers onthe 4th bird with the spotty undertail?

 

John_WA

Well-known member

• Feb 17, 2013

• #8

Still thornbill, sp. I think Striated or Brown Thornbill, which though I'm not sure. Probably leaning towards Striated. I think the outer tail feathers are new and still growing (may be wrong)

 

Dimitris

Birdwatcher in Oz

• Feb 17, 2013

• #9

A yellowish bum on a 'brown' coloured is usually indicative of Striated... I would like to see the head to be sure of.

The tail and wing moult of the 'two' Goshawks is very similar (identical) and I would be inclined to say that they are the same bird.

 

John_WA

Well-known member

• Feb 17, 2013

• #10

Dimitris said:

The tail and wing moult of the 'two' Goshawks is very similar (identical) and I would be inclined to say that they are the same bird.

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That's what I thought too, but 50km is a long way..................