mfunnell
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Or perhaps add some motion blur to represent higher magnification with a less than steady platform...
...Mike
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Leica 7x42 Ultravid HD+ owners thoughts. (2 Viewers)
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...Mike
Mark9473
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To show that much of a difference, the second instrument would need to be 15x.
I really don't think there is a huge difference in how steady you can hold a 7x versus a 10x. Anything above 10x and yes it is noticeable but between 7x and 10x I don't notice that much of a difference. I personally can hold 10x pretty steady if the binocular is a little heavier and balanced well. Here is a good thread on why 8x may not be the IDEAL magnification so many think it is.
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=224258
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A 12x50 would definitely have advantages. Especially for anything long distance like hawking. Best combination to have is an 8x and 10x. Beats one binocular all the time.Nah, if you really want to see the bird you need a 12x50
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james holdsworth
Consulting Biologist
Better field skills will trump mag. every time.
But 10x offers a lot more than 7x and it is a lot easier to carry than a spotting scope. Also, it is a lot quicker to get on the bird than a spotting scope. By the time you get the scope set up the bird can be gone. I personally hate carrying a spotting scope in addition to binoculars. A good 10x gives you that extra detail with out the hassle and weight. A 7x might be alright at close distances in heavy woods but at any distance I will take a 10x anytime.
Yep!:t:
If you have a couple of shots of whiskey you can hold a 10x as steady as a 7x. Try it. It only works with Crown Royal Maple.
Vespobuteo
Well-known member
A 7x is superior to a 10x in dense forest or and at close distance,
following warblers with my 7x is so much easier than with my 8.5x, 150m vs 133m FOV, and a 10x have even less FOV. In practice, it means that with a larger FOV you can get a longer observation time.
If you really want resolution at longer distances, a scope is the only way to go.
To me a 10x is the worst compromise. Not enough mag for longer distances and too much mag up close.
But it all depends on your usage and preferences.
My home is in a dense forest (huge poplars, red oaks, etc.) and the first time I used my 10X50 SV I said, "Now there's the view I've always wanted." I had a 7X42 Ultravid for 10 years that never did what the 10X50 does. I don't miss the 7X a bit. Then again, I know my forest. :frog:
FrankD
Well-known member
Just out of curiosity Dennis, what scope(s) do you use? I don't ever remember you mentioning a scope and that says a lot considering I remember way back when you started posting here and what binoculars you were using at the time. I don't really remember your posting in the spotting scope forum either.
If I had to hazard a guess based on your current personal preferences I would say that you have the Swaro ATX..probably the 85 though if I know of your desire to cover all bases then I would say the 65/95 module combo.
So, what do you have?
Not to get off track with this post.
Personally I agree with Vespo's comments, particularly the second last sentence...at least from my experience.
I've had multiple instances where I've wished for whatever I DIDN'T have with me. More times than not I've wished for 10X when I had 7X/8X with me. Saying this, if someone calls up and says "let's go birding," and I knew little to nothing about where I was going...I'd pick up an 8X. But I have also been known to put for 7X AND 10X around my neck!
I don't use a scope. I hate carrying them.
Which one do you use as the chaser?Did you every try a Crown Royal and Royal Crown? B
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I hate 7x. They are to WEAK! I want some magnification! Out here in the west we have a lot of big open country. Maybe back east in dense woods 7x would be alright on close in birds. You look across a mountain valley in the Rocky Mountains and you can't see anything with a 7x. If you are searching for birds in the Hayden Valley in Yellowstone,Wyoming 7x is useless. I think people that like 7x are birding in dense woods at short distances.
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FrankD
Well-known member
Oh, ok, was just curious.
james holdsworth
Consulting Biologist
This is just silly - your go-to bin was an 8 for most of the years you have posted here, with no complaints. Most of this is just you backing your recent purchase of a ten power bin and your constant craving for vindication. [not only the best bin., but the best mag. as well...LOL]
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