Redpoll (NE Italy) (1 Viewer)

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Luca Boscain

• Jan 18, 2018

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Today, in Lido di Venezia, I observed some redpolls and 1 or 2 were rather white with a lovely pink on the breast. This is the first:

 

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Luca Boscain

• Jan 18, 2018

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And this could be the same individual or a second male:

 

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Luca Boscain

• Jan 18, 2018

• #3

Any opinion??

 

KenM

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• Jan 18, 2018

• #4

Hippolais said:

Any opinion??

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Hi Hippolais,

These images look extremely well lit, which might be giving a bleaching effect, did you see the rumps at all? If they were white they might be candidates for C.flammea (Common Redpoll).

Cheers

 

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Luca Boscain

• Jan 18, 2018

• #5

You can see the white rump on the last photo of second series. No chance for an Arctic??

 

CARERY

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• Jan 18, 2018

• #6

One of those rather light-bellied, little marked flammea for me. I'd say they are different birds, note the different intensity of streaking on flanks. There are so many of these pale Redpolls in Europe this winter. They can show all features one would expect in Arctic Redpoll. To ID a Redpoll as exilipes I would want to see all features combined in one bird. As for these IMO e.g. not frosty enough, the back is too dark, the ear-coverts too strong contrasting to rest of the head, bill too long...