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Old Sunday 8th July 2012, 22:13   #1
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warbler central new york july 6

I think its an orange crested
small warbler central new york


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Old Sunday 8th July 2012, 22:31   #2
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With the bluish upperparts and necklace, I'd say a very young Northern Parula.
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With the bluish upperparts and necklace, I'd say a very young Northern Parula.
At 2nd glance, am inclined to agree.
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Old Wednesday 11th July 2012, 12:37   #5
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Pale yellow throat, necklace and upprpart colour = Northern Parula.

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At 2nd glance, am inclined to agree.
Fugl, it's always best to stick with your first impression!

It's a young Common Yellowthroat, not a Parula.
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Old Wednesday 11th July 2012, 12:51   #7
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Just out of curiosity - would this be a local breeder or a very early migrant?
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Fugl, it's always best to stick with your first impression!

It's a young Common Yellowthroat, not a Parula.
Not always but I agree it often is. But how about giving us chapter & verse on this one?
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Old Wednesday 11th July 2012, 16:51   #10
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Agree with Common Yellowthroat, although it does look peculiar.
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For us less well versed in the Old Testament, please expand.
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Not always but I agree it often is. But how about giving us chapter & verse on this one?
Well, shape/structure is better for C. Yellowthroat, bill is too thick (Parula should have a more deeper orange sharper-pointed bill), lack of white eye-arcs, among other things. I would expect overall a more blue-gray plumage if this was a N. Parula.

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For us less well versed in the Old Testament, please expand.
Obviously it was mean't as a joke, as there is no such book in the bible.
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Hezekiah 6:6
More apposite here might be 1 Corinthians 13:12. But I still don't see clearly why our bird's not a Northern Parula.

[There's no book of Hezekiah in the bible but E for effort anyway ]]

EDIT: cross-posted with your last, Falcon.

Well, OK, I see things a little less darkly now. I still wonder, however, how well-developed the eye arcs would be on a very young Northern Parula? Dto for bill characteristics.
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I still don't see clearly why our bird's not a Northern Parula.
I think the lack of wing bars is the clincher. They're present in Northern Parula, even in its juvenal/first basic plumage (although narrower and duller).

Otherwise, it just looks like a Common Yellowthroat to me. The long pink tarsi sold me. Bill shape. Colouring.

But who knows?
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... you could maybe convince me that it's a young Mourning Warbler (a young male with an especially yellow throat and a lack of eye crescents), but there is zero chance that it's a Northern Parula.
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More apposite here might be 1 Corinthians 13:12. But I still don't see clearly why our bird's not a Northern Parula.

[There's no book of Hezekiah in the bible but E for effort anyway ]]

EDIT: cross-posted with your last, Falcon.

Well, OK, I see things a little less darkly now. I still wonder, however, how well-developed the eye arcs would be on a very young Northern Parula? Dto for bill characteristics.
Young birds do show eye arcs.

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... you could maybe convince me that it's a young Mourning Warbler (a young male with an especially yellow throat and a lack of eye crescents), but there is zero chance that it's a Northern Parula.
You couldn't convince me.
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I've attached one of my photos of a juvenile Northern Parula taken in Florida. The eye arcs, wingbars and leg colour are all different from the original pic. Common Yellowthroat for me
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Old Wednesday 11th July 2012, 23:36   #18
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I am going with juvenile Mourning Warbler. Check this out.
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I am going with juvenile Mourning Warbler. Check this out.
That would be a pretty early southbound migrant.

It's a yellowthroat, as The Falcon says.
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That would be a pretty early southbound migrant.
Well, no.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/cfmx/extapps/b...ar=2000&comp=0

I do think it's a yellowthroat, but I haven't seen any reasons given why it's not a Mourning Warbler. I certainly think that merits more debate than the parula possibility!
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I am going with juvenile Mourning Warbler. Check this out.
The warbler in the link you provided decidedly looks like a young male Common Yellowthroat, not a Mourning Warbler. The bill shape and pinkish legs and underparts color in the original post look best for Common Yellowthroat, but the grayish back is odd, though that could be a lighting/ photographic effect.

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I'm thinking Common Yellowthroat, though I'm not seeing a white eye ring.

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During the time I have been assisting with bird banding here in Missouri (over a decade) we have netted and banded quite a few Mourning Warblers, Parulas and Common Yellowthroats. We identify, sex, age and obtain other information on all the birds we band. For me, the photo provided by the OP most closely resembles a juvenile Mourning Warbler. The grayish wash on the chest, seems to me, to be more consistent with this species than the others which have been suggested.
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Oops!! I read the post title as central *park* new york, not central new york. It would certainly be a migrant right now in the former place.

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