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pipits, France, Normandy (1 Viewer)

ekopa

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Hi everyone,

Are these all meadow pipits? (2, 3 - a juv?)
Spotted a couple of weeks ago in Normandy, France


Thanks
Alexey
 

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I also tried to look for a short curved hindclaw in the juv. pipit but failed.
Instead, the head pattern and bill size/colour suggest a Meadow. The complete pale eye-ring with no sign of a dark loral stripe breaking the eye-ring - both before and behind the eye (some Tree ambiguous).The pale submoustachial stripe is rather narrow - wider in Tree. Bill is Meadow thin and yellowish - pinkish in Tree. The lack of flank streaking is alright for juveniles.

JanJ
 
You're right Jan, once zoomed I can't see clearly the nail. I agree most of it looks Meadow but those flanks look too plain compared with the juv Meadow in Alström et al. It can be variable (as always!) in juvs I guess. Otherwise juv Tree on same ref. shows plain flanks, like subject. Kind of tricky bird.
 
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