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"Bird" as a Verb (1 Viewer)
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Simon Wates
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By the way folks, if its all getting too much the antidote was given on post 16.
Andy Adcock
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We may as well just start calling 'up'- 'down' after all, they did it with 'bad' which it seems means good.
How will a teacher mark your kids English exam if they use 'bring' when they should use 'take' or write 'theater' istead of 'theatre'?
As I said before, pronunciation and spelling is one thing, but words have established meanings and the wrong usage is being allowed to creep in unchallenged. No one has suggested that English-English is 'superior'. If I've come across as if I have, that has not been my intention but the English I grew up with is not being lost, it's being given away, without a fight, to some, it does matter.
Even BBC presenters now say 'normalcy', the word is normality for goodness sake!
Off to take my manstruation supplement.....:-C
PS If Notts County lose tonight, expect me to be in an even worse mood.........:-O
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How will a teacher mark your kids English exam if they use 'bring' when they should use 'take' or write 'theater' istead of 'theatre'?
As I said before, pronunciation and spelling is one thing, but words have established meanings and the wrong usage is being allowed to creep in unchallenged. No one has suggested that English-English is 'superior'. If I've come across as if I have, that has not been my intention but the English I grew up with is not being lost, it's being given away, without a fight, to some, it does matter.
Even BBC presenters now say 'normalcy', the word is normality for goodness sake!
Off to take my manstruation supplement.....:-C
PS If Notts County lose tonight, expect me to be in an even worse mood.........:-O
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You're forgiven Dave. I set that one up8-P
kb57
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Agree. But I still am not going to call a skua a jaeger
Agree too, sounds like an expensive cardigan...plus there is no logic for using two different English names for the same genus.
I hate to point it out, but 'getting down' was a thankfully now archaic term for having a good time in the '60s and '70s. You could find some consolation in the fact that both it and 'bad = good' are probably both considered completely outdated by today's youth. And I see Notts County won last night !B
Andy Adcock
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And I see Notts County won last night !B
Best start to a season in a very long time, thank you for noticing. You can do what you like with the English language today..
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The usage is eminently logical--it is classifying birds on the basis of appearance, which is useful to birders. Jaegers are frequently confused with other jaeger species--indeed they can be almost indistinguishable in certain plumages. Skuas are rarely, if ever, confused with jaegers, and are considerably bulkier. Plus "jaeger" is the german word for "hunter." Again, an apt choice.
The discussion of "skuas" in the Collins guide reflects the awkwardness of using the same word for both jaegers and skuas. It has a single section discussing “field identification of skuas” but repeatedly has to distinguish the two groups. Here are three examples:
– “Adults of the smaller species have long, projecting tail-feathers of characteristic shape.”
– “Apart from plumage distinctions, skuas are recognized by more pointed ‘hand’ (not so valid for the broad-winged Great Skua, of course)…”
– “The most difficult part of skua identification is to separate non-adults of Arctic, Pomarine and Long-tailed Skuas.”
Peter C.
...just zis guy, you know?
Mind you...I hate it when I hear 'action' used as a verb. Particularly if it's 'going forward'
*Barf*
"Going forward" is one of those toxic phrases that has thoroughly infected business life over here. People who use it often must think they sound all clever; to me, it just sounds like they are being precious.
kb57
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Whereas great, brown, Chilean and South Polar are easily separated??
I appreciate the etymology and meaning of 'jaeger' and apologise if my intentionally light-hearted post drifted into the realms of anglocentric chauvinism that I'd previously criticised.
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