YLG or CG?? (1 Viewer)

Rui_Caratão

Well-known member

• Sep 23, 2011

• #1

This gull has been seen in the first days of August in Portugal, there are some CG like features, like head shape, upright posture....although dark eyes are not so uncommon on immature YLG.
Primaries were new to P5, and the tail band was still complete.

 

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Thing

Idiosyncratic

• Sep 23, 2011

• #2

Doesn't look like a Common to me, size alone might rule it out but the facial structure and bill size don't do it either.

 

Hotspur

James Spencer

• Sep 23, 2011

• #3

i think CG may be Caspian Gull...

 

Thing

Idiosyncratic

• Sep 23, 2011

• #4

I'll get my coat...

 

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steve west

Well-known member

• Sep 23, 2011

• #5

Tempting to call Caspian although the bill doesn't look long and slender enough to me.

Steve

 

lou salomon

the birdonist

• Sep 23, 2011

• #6

it's a 2nd summer moulting into 2nd winter and most probably an odd michahellis. the swanlike neck (2nd pic) together with dark eyes and upright posture of course give a cachinnans impression. head streaking looks too extensive though and bill tip looks blunt (strong curvature of upper mandible) and bill is a bit too high for a cach. moult stage doesn't really give a clue since it overlaps too much, this ind. being slightly late.
so, without giving a 100% ID, i think it is an unusually looking 3cy YLG.

 

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tittletattler

Well-known member

• Sep 23, 2011

• #7

lou salomon said:

it's a 2nd summer moulting into 2nd winter and most probably an odd michahellis. the swanlike neck (2nd pic) together with dark eyes and upright posture of course give a cachinnans impression. head streaking looks too extensive though and bill tip looks blunt (strong curvature of upper mandible) and bill is a bit too high for a cach. moult stage doesn't really give a clue since it overlaps too much, this ind. being slightly late.
so, without giving a 100% ID, i think it is an unusually looking 3cy YLG.

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Seconded. It is an odd looking bird though and worthy of discussion.

Cheers, Andy.

 

Rui_Caratão

Well-known member

• Sep 23, 2011

• #8

On the field, that upright posture over all the other gulls was a constant, and the longer tibia reinforced that look. I also noticed the head streaking, its not that obvious but its there, and probably CG should by that time show plain white heads.