Canuck Bob
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Starting this winter an attempt has been made to take bin viewing seriously. In the process a Nikon black 8X30 EII in mint condition and a new Steiner Nav Pro 7X30 were acquired. The Nikon is the reference bin.
7X or 8X, started out assuming that this was a non-issue. It is hardly an issue but there is a distinctly larger view at 8X and I find it more pleasing.
It took some time to tune and practice using the bins to get familiar. Some day I may pick up a nice bin and say yay or nay at the counter. Current experience has proven it takes time for me. Found out my left eye doesn't focus quite as sharp as the right. Seems to have a lot to do with a little less contrast. Tried both bins flipped over to confirm it was my eyes.
IF has a place in my collection (is 3 bins a collection?). They are an outstanding gadget. Learning to use them has been fun. However they are not wildlife bins IMO.
Cf from the Nikon allows very precise focus. One can make a distant pine cone in a tree snap into focus through a maze of back alley visual clutter in the foreground. This is the magic of bins for me. It always stirs an emotional response. 3D comes a close second.
FOV is important but out to 50 paces it amounts to only a slightly larger view. Watching the Rockies or the stars it is breathtaking. The Steiner has a slight tunnel effect though. I find that a Magpie in the outer field looks just like a Magpie in the well reviewed EII and the reported mediocre reviews of the cheap Steiner line.
Rubber eyecups are not a design relic after all. I like the way they aid in locating the rear of the bin and have some give to fine tune eyepiece location in regards the upper eye socket.
There is no comparison between the convenience of viewing with glasses on and trying to transition smoothly from glasses on to no glasses viewing. However it is definitely an easier and more expansive view in both bins without glasses. The Steiner looses no FOV either way. The Nikon looses a bit with glasses on.
I found that it was possible to sharpen both bins focus noticeably with practice. Striving to focus carefully made a difference over a couple of months. Also IPD is very important to good viewing. I started out a 70 and careful work has proven it is 69 at longer range. Such a small incremental change made a difference. This was a surprise. They will focus much closer than spec, briefly, if the IPD is closed down.
One postscript, birding is about listening. I figured this was old fashion blarney to sell apps, sure was wrong.
7X or 8X, started out assuming that this was a non-issue. It is hardly an issue but there is a distinctly larger view at 8X and I find it more pleasing.
It took some time to tune and practice using the bins to get familiar. Some day I may pick up a nice bin and say yay or nay at the counter. Current experience has proven it takes time for me. Found out my left eye doesn't focus quite as sharp as the right. Seems to have a lot to do with a little less contrast. Tried both bins flipped over to confirm it was my eyes.
IF has a place in my collection (is 3 bins a collection?). They are an outstanding gadget. Learning to use them has been fun. However they are not wildlife bins IMO.
Cf from the Nikon allows very precise focus. One can make a distant pine cone in a tree snap into focus through a maze of back alley visual clutter in the foreground. This is the magic of bins for me. It always stirs an emotional response. 3D comes a close second.
FOV is important but out to 50 paces it amounts to only a slightly larger view. Watching the Rockies or the stars it is breathtaking. The Steiner has a slight tunnel effect though. I find that a Magpie in the outer field looks just like a Magpie in the well reviewed EII and the reported mediocre reviews of the cheap Steiner line.
Rubber eyecups are not a design relic after all. I like the way they aid in locating the rear of the bin and have some give to fine tune eyepiece location in regards the upper eye socket.
There is no comparison between the convenience of viewing with glasses on and trying to transition smoothly from glasses on to no glasses viewing. However it is definitely an easier and more expansive view in both bins without glasses. The Steiner looses no FOV either way. The Nikon looses a bit with glasses on.
I found that it was possible to sharpen both bins focus noticeably with practice. Striving to focus carefully made a difference over a couple of months. Also IPD is very important to good viewing. I started out a 70 and careful work has proven it is 69 at longer range. Such a small incremental change made a difference. This was a surprise. They will focus much closer than spec, briefly, if the IPD is closed down.
One postscript, birding is about listening. I figured this was old fashion blarney to sell apps, sure was wrong.
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