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Changing Farming Practices (1 Viewer)

Anthony Morton

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Exactly what do we mean when we quote 'changing farming practices' as one of the reasons for the population decline of Britain's wild birds? And which of these present-day farming practices do members consider to be individually responsible for causing the most damage to wild birds?

Anthony
 
Could it be the vast tracks of land given over to one plant which is regularly sprayed with allsorts of chemicals.
These chemicals defusing into the water supply.
These chemicals carried on the air.
Farmings history of poisoning land with cattle disease......Prion diseases.
Where`d you wanna start?
 
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Here are a few :-
* ploughing to the hedge for increased productivity, removing grass /scrub margins= less invertebrates , small rodents , ground nesting sites .

* removing species rich hedgerows for increased productivity .

* "Improving " pasture thus replacing species rich nutrient poor habitat with high nutrient , species poor habitat .

*Cutting grass as Silage early in the year , destroying nest sites for birds & small mammals, rather than cutting for hay later in the year which provides nesting sites & seeding grasses .

*Draining wetlands .

*Planting arable crops in Autumn which mature over winter , rather than planting in Spring , which are left as winter stubble after harvesting .

* More efficient machinery which makes for "tidy" farms with less grain spillage etc .


Colin
 
Add to that extensive list higher use of weedkillers and pesticides and higher proportion of monoculture.... leading to less diversity and biomass of food for birds.

And before anyone assumes I blame the farmers, I don't.. well not completely. Farmers need to make a living and will naturally try and made as good a living as they can.

Its consumers that expect supermarkets to be stocked with cheap, homogenious year-round food.
 
Jane Turner said:
Add to that extensive list higher use of weedkillers and pesticides and higher proportion of monoculture.... leading to less diversity and biomass of food for birds.

And before anyone assumes I blame the farmers, I don't.. well not completely. Farmers need to make a living and will naturally try and made as good a living as they can.

Its consumers that expect supermarkets to be stocked with cheap, homogenious year-round food.

.....and not forgetting the CAP , a centrally planned system to keep farmers in business by subsidising them to produce food in quantities which exceeded the demand for it .
At long last this system changes wef 2005 to one which is based on the area of land occupied -with a conservation component-from one based on output .
The damage has already been done though .
 
On the bright side, we now have legislation banning allowing livestock access to waterways and making buffer zones at the bottom if hillsides and along waterways manditory (I think it's any slope of 15 degrees). The idea of the buffer zones is to prevent run-off but there has to be benefit to birds and animals in having untilled strips on farms.
 
At an individual farm level, the change to more or less 'monoculture' from the 'mixed' farm of old has had an important effect.

For instance, even where chemicals are used, the spreading of manure onto the land would have added an organic element and with it, the increased activity of small creatures in the soil would have provided food for birds. Now many farms don't have a stock-yard, etc., to provide the raw material for a muck-heap.
 
If you want to know more about the subject, I would suggest getting a copy of "Birds, Scythes and Combines: a history of birds and agricultural change" by Michael Shrubb (Cambridge Univ. Press, 2003; ISBN: 0521814634.) Not cheap at £35.00 but an excellent read - Mike is a retired farmer as well as an ornithologist.
 
Tyke said:
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The damage has already been done though .

I think the agriculturally induced habitat damage would recover remarkably quickly... its consumers attitudes and supermarket's monopolythat are beyond redemption!
 
Jane Turner said:
I think the agriculturally induced habitat damage would recover remarkably quickly... its consumers attitudes and supermarket's monopolythat are beyond redemption!


I hope you are right about farmland recovery-we shall see . Certainly the "right" habitat attracts wildlife like a magnet .

Yes supermarkets have too much power in this country over food producers, militate against diversity , overide seasonality by importing , ruin high street independents & persuade local planning departments to let them do it , etc etc ....but it's a free country I am afraid & we are all consumers-does anyone not shop at a supermarket ?
 
Tyke said:
I am afraid & we are all consumers-does anyone not shop at a supermarket ?

No.. but when I do I tend not to buy fresh veg.. and if I do I buy locally produced seasonal organic veg.... usually at twice the price at some imported from the other side of the world.


Asparagus is a classic example.. I used to wait with eager anticipation for the few weeks in May when it was in season... now it comes from Peru for the latter half of the year and Thailand for the rest! How can that make sense?
 
Jane Turner said:
No.. but when I do I tend not to buy fresh veg.. and if I do I buy locally produced seasonal organic veg.... usually at twice the price at some imported from the other side of the world.


Asparagus is a classic example.. I used to wait with eager anticipation for the few weeks in May when it was in season... now it comes from Peru for the latter half of the year and Thailand for the rest! How can that make sense?

It doesn't Jane . More power to your elbow . I just wouldn't want to take a lie detector test on the ecological soundness of our Tesco's shopping over a year...& I hate the place !
 
As I understand it there should be some really beneficial changes on the way if farmers take up some of the grants which will soon be available to them under the EU Environmental Stewardship Scheme (ESS), which in turn divides into an Entry Level Scheme (ELS) and a Higher Level Scheme (HLS). In essence the ELS will attempt to deliver some (cheaper and easier) wildlife features across the whole country (every farmer in England will be eligible for ELS funding), whereas the HLS will target particular areas and particular species of wildlife which English Nature deem to be in need of support.
From my limited knowledge of the subject it seems there will be great opportunities to change from some of the intensive farming practices which have previously been supported through EU grants, into ecologically sound farming practices which support wildlife diversity. What I don't know is how much farmers will see the schemes as attractive and with sufficient incentives for them to get involved with wildlife protection.

Alan Hill
 
alanhill said:
it seems there will be great opportunities to change from some of the intensive farming practices which have previously been supported through EU grants, into ecologically sound farming practices which support wildlife diversity.

Alan Hill

Lets hope so Alan . It will be interesting to see if the BTO & RSPB graphs of farmland bird populations start to trend up again...& if so whether that will be perceived as a correlation !

Colin
 
Rhion said:
If you want to know more about the subject, I would suggest getting a copy of "Birds, Scythes and Combines: a history of birds and agricultural change" by Michael Shrubb (Cambridge Univ. Press, 2003; ISBN: 0521814634.) Not cheap at £35.00 but an excellent read - Mike is a retired farmer as well as an ornithologist.

Absolutely - a must read for everyone who is interested in birds and the countryside. Put it on your Christmas list if it#' not too late. Particularly relevant too for the new Eastern European EU members. That's one of the reasons the RSPB is buying land there.

I would also recemmend a read of "The diet of seed-eating birds on lowland farmland" by Rob Robinson BTO, published in British Birds Vol. 97, No. 9, September 2004.

David
 
Anthony Morton said:
Exactly what do we mean when we quote 'changing farming practices' as one of the reasons for the population decline of Britain's wild birds? And which of these present-day farming practices do members consider to be individually responsible for causing the most damage to wild birds?

Anthony
From a farmer's point of view :

I think the main thing is loss of diversity. Several people have listed mechanisms behind this very well. The most important have, I believe, been the trend towards simpler farming systems; and the loss of pockets of habitat in the quest to utilise 100% of the land and make mechanical operation easier with ever larger machinery.

The reasons for these changes (IMHO) are entirely economic. It would be easy to blame the CAP, but that is only one facet of the economic pressures facing farmers. I (like one contributor) had high hopes for the change to the Single Farm Payment system, but I fear that we will be forced by powerful economic forces to carry on much as before. The reason ? I see three main ones - full decoupling as envisaged by Franz Fischler was rejected by important parts of Europe (the French), so we will not be competing on a level playing field (we're used to that now, but birders won't like the results of our coping strategy). Secondly farmers are bred / reared with abundant pride and optimism derived from the 1947 Agriculture Act. It will take many generations to remove the "can produce, will produce" mentality. IT goes deeper than that too. Opting not to produce would mean devastation of the business - loss of jobs, infrastructure within the business, making it incredibly expensive to re-start should there be an upturn (remember that optimism ?).

The jobs situation is the third reason in itself and perhaps the most important. Many farmers do not employ anyone. They would have to find alternative income. Most consider that an unsurmountable hurdle. The employed labour situation in UK agriculture is critical. We do not have enough workers, because we cannot afford them. We cannot attract workers, so the supply is declining (it is highly skilled work, becoming ever more so). Farmers like me are terrified of letting a worker go because they are irreplaceable. You only cut labour when your system has been adapted to cope with less under all circumstances. Stopping production is not "under all circumstances". You want to keep your labour, so must generate income to pay for it.

Back to the economic pressures on farmers. Recently we have seen dairy companies who supply the supermarkets imposing price cuts on farmers despite the fact that farmers' costs are rising. Farmers have no option - they must sell their product because the system cannot be switched off and on at will. A decision to produce is usually taken about 12 months before the actual production.

That is a fairly typical example of the economic pressures on farmers. We tend to have significant quantities to sell, far more than can easily be disposed of through retail sales to individual members of the public (e.g. through farmers' markets). The buyers for these significant quantities hold the whip hand. In many cases their buyers have similar power over them. This has little to do with the CAP except that perhaps the CAP has enabled farmers to restructure more rapidly to meet these challenges.

Environmental schemes are being set up as a conduit to provide a real economic benefit to farmers. I see this as being helpful but certainly not a miracle cure. There are three reasons for this :
1. payments from schemes are minimal;
2. bureaucracy is burdensome;
3. range of practices encouraged is too limited.

I'll admit a vested interest here - I have weighed up the pros and cons and decided it is not worth my while joining. The activities I undertake are often outside the scheme rules. Meeting the rules as well would be burdensome !

Another particular grouse is that farmers' own efforts cannot be claimed as a cost. This has been a general rule of UK grant schemes all the time I have been farming. It was acceptable when grant schemes were generous, and farming itself yielded a good income. In today's climate it seems a ridiculous barrier, particularly as the bureaucracy involves huge amount of effort from the farmer.

Could go on for ever :-(
Mike.
 
Mike-that is really informative -if a little depressing !

In my naivety I thought the SFP would have provided an incentive through the fixed payment to adopt the conservation requirements . Also that the extended ( ? eight years ) transitional period from historic subsidies to the level payment would have provided time to replan businesses around the new objectives ( dare I mention diversification ? ) .-Well at least for enough farmland to make a difference .

I can see that downsizing a familly business will not be easy .

Do you see more farms being sold . Perhaps it would be easier for new entrants to gear a farming business to the new rules ?. This was an argument being advanced here in the SW yesterday on a TV farming programme .

Colin
 
Tyke said:
Mike-that is really informative -if a little depressing !

In my naivety I thought the SFP would have provided an incentive through the fixed payment to adopt the conservation requirements .
There is an incentive through the erosion of "fixed" payments which can only be recovered by joining environmental schemes. However, only a proportion of the money lost will be available, and there are many disincentives to claiming. This is worse in Scotland than England because there is a simple scheme up and running in England - the Entry Level Scheme, but the Scottish Executive are still "working on it".

Tyke said:
Also that the extended ( ? eight years ) transitional period from historic subsidies to the level payment would have provided time to replan businesses around the new objectives ( dare I mention diversification ? ) .-Well at least for enough farmland to make a difference .
We'll see about the time scale :)

On diversification, don't make me laugh. All the economic pressures are for specialisation - on concentrating your resources on what you do best. Diversification works in a tiny minority of cases, but for most who attempt it the distraction from the main business outweighs the benefits.

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I can see that downsizing a familly business will not be easy .

Do you see more farms being sold . Perhaps it would be easier for new entrants to gear a farming business to the new rules ?. This was an argument being advanced here in the SW yesterday on a TV farming programme .

Colin[/QUOTE]
Almost certainly fewer farms will be sold. The SFP can be a useful pension for those wishing to leave the industry. They can let their land to the highest bidder. The highest bidder is likely to be the strongest established local business with the scale to keep overheads down. New entrants ?? Go and make a pile in another profession first, still fancy it ? Then start pouring money into farming, a capital hungry business in the UK. Nah - set off for Eastern Europe.

Mike.
 
Thanks Mike .
On a more positive note these are a few encouraging schemes going on at present :-
http://news.bbc/co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_west/3240675.stm

http://www.rspb.org.uk/countryside/farming/hopefarm/index.asp

http://www.marketrasentoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=8158ArticleID=894967

http://www.nfu.org.uk/stellentdev/g...l_article/dairyfarmingandco_ia412f4576_2.hcsp

...and a recent warning for the new easteuropean EEC entrants :-

http://birdlife.org/news/news/2004/01/farm_birds.html


Sorry-those don't seem to work !-my dexlisia I expect -If you're interested a Google on the following topics should find them-in order as above :-

BBC News . Green Farms . Countryside Council for Wales . Tir Gofal Scheme .

RSPB Hope Farm

MarketRasentoday . FWAG Silver Lapwing Award . Hall Farm .

NFUonline . Wilkinson award . Andy & Sue Guy Thorney Abbey Farm

and
BirdLife International . Dramatic Decline of European Farm Birds predicted .

Colin
 
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