JANJ said:Just out of interest Jane, check the first Willow (acredula) with the shorts wing here:
http://www.tarsiger.com/index.php?p...llow+Warbler,+Phylloscopus+trochilus&lang=eng
JanJ
JimMorris said:I'm not sure on this one, I think it may be a garden warbler can someone confirm this
JimMorris said:I'm not sure on this one, I think it may be a garden warbler can someone confirm this
Jono L said:Just a few thoughts...
Surely that pp is too short for WW? Should be at least equal to the exposed tertial length to be a WW and this is clearly shorter. Although leg colour can vary, surely wing formula is always consistent? I would expect a WW to have at least some yellow or greeny yellow in the plumage too.
I would agree that structurally it looks a bit wierd for a Chiff though, quite long and with a more WW like head pattern.
Maybe the habitat is a clue too; Chiffs are often on the ground or low down.
Jono Leadley
Jane Turner said:Its also got a very rounded (Chiff-like) wing. Weird bird. I'd like to see it in the field.
J.Moss take a look at this
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=15579
JANJ said:And notice p6 not emarginated. Strangely p5 seems to be longer than p4 while p2 being as long as p6 is alright, usually p2 is 5/6 or = 6, uncommonly =6/7 exceptionally = 5
In Chiffchaff
p2 =6/8, uncommonly = 8, exceptionally = 8/9
JanJ
bitterntwisted said:I'll bear all that in mind next time I'm struggling to get a proper look at one in the back of a bush, Jan!