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Trinovid 7x35 (1 Viewer)

I get the frustration of some here about the waterproof aspect of the new Trins. They are attracted to their form and specs and want them to be like other Leicas and not to be considered chi chi or boutique. Many apparently, don't mind their limitations with regards to water and accept that if something happens they'll just deal with it. I get that too.

Either way, if water does get inside these things, Leica most likely isn't going to help you.
 
I get the frustration of some here about the waterproof aspect of the new Trins. They are attracted to their form and specs and want them to be like other Leicas and not to be considered chi chi or boutique. Many apparently, don't mind their limitations with regards to water and accept that if something happens they'll just deal with it. I get that too.

Either way, if water does get inside these things, Leica most likely isn't going to help you.

Leica Customer Support is on the same track on service level as Zeiss is now. They have to if they want to compeed with Swaro's service level.
Untill '99 there were IMHO 2 A-brands. Then Swaro launched the EL and both Zeiss and Leica leaned back with the mantra: "We are the best". I think with the HT, SF, NV and GV they are back on track, except for service. I've seen proof that both are much and much better in service and are now of the same level as Swarovski is for ages.
I have all the confidence that Leica CS is going to help you if your Trinnie get drawned. It's not a guarantuee issue but a service issue and all three brands understand that will be the key factor for sales when products are compatible.

Jan
 
I’d take a Geovid if hunting.
I’d definitely choose something waterproof on a boat.
I might well choose something larger like a 42/50mm as a specialist bird/wildlife binocular.
But the trinovid 7x35 sounds ideal for a lot of general recreational uses...
 
JabaliHunter, post 105,
Have you done an immersion test with a Geovid and, if you did, what was the outcome??
Gijs van Ginkel

Haha! No, I haven’t. I have had them in heavy rain, but in the past 20 years neither of the two Swarovskis ELs or the Leica Geovid that I have owned have been affected by heavy rain. Before that my grandfather’s old porros for instance just used to sit inside my jacket if it rained.

My half hearted point was less about waterproofing, rather that I wouldn’t expect to select this (or any) 7x35 for some of the situations described. I’d want the the rangefinder for instance, or a larger objective for my main binocular uses, but still I can envisage a lot of other daily uses for a 7x35, waterproof or not.
 
The Leica Trinovids with their wide FOV's and small compact form factor and high quality retro appeal will still be very attractive to a lot of people.

Wide FOVs? No better than average for their class, except maybe the 7x model (for which there isn't much comparison). This is a major reason I'm not getting excited about them, however cute they are.
 
I had a $1500 bin [Elite] ruined in an hour long deluge - I did my best to protect the bin but, in the end, one tube fogged and never fully recovered. That was the end of ''nearly'' waterproof bins for me.

James:

I do have to ask, how do you birdwatch in an hour long deluge.

My momma always told me to come in and stay out of the rain.
And as a farmer I am in the weather every day. Common sense.

Jerry
 
Wide FOVs? No better than average for their class, except maybe the 7x model (for which there isn't much comparison). This is a major reason I'm not getting excited about them, however cute they are.
I was referring to the 7x35 Leica Trinovid when I said wide FOV's. There not too many binoculars even 7x with a 450 foot FOV except maybe the Zeiss 7x42 FL or the Zenray HD 7x36. I have to disagree in that I think a very small compact retro looking binocular in a 7x35 format with an Uppendahl prism system for compactness and having a 450 foot FOV is quite exciting.
 
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I should have been clearer. I meant with warranty, not with service.

Kevin
Jan can speak for himself but in my book all matters concerning how problems with your binos after you have bought them are handled, including warranty, come under customer service, and I am pretty sure this is what Jan means.

Lee
 
Kevin
Jan can speak for himself but in my book all matters concerning how problems with your binos after you have bought them are handled, including warranty, come under customer service, and I am pretty sure this is what Jan means.

Lee

I guess this is a matter of semantics. Let me be clear as to what I mean to say.

I believe, based on my 2 repair experiences with Leica USA, that if one buys one of the new (old) Trinovids and incurs water damage, here in the USA, I seriously doubt Leica will repair them without charge as with a warranty.

Sure they'll service (repair) them, but at your substantial expense. And, that would be fair.
 
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