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Old Sunday 13th August 2017, 20:18   #1
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High end hide luxury

After the basics are sorted , what level of comfort and luxury would the high end birder expect or even want .. is better always better ...
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Old Sunday 13th August 2017, 20:31   #2
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The hide on the Eden Estuary (at Guardbridge?) has heating and possiby even carpet from memory
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Hi Phil.... would birders prefer that level of comfort standard ..... and what else would you want on a wish list
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Old Sunday 13th August 2017, 20:52   #4
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In all fairness as long as the hide is watertight and has a confortable seating / window arrangement I am far more concerned about the about it overlooks
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Old Sunday 13th August 2017, 21:04   #5
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The view is fairly guaranteed ... the Berney mudflats one side and rspb berney arms the other .. so how. high end is high end ...wish list stuff ... coffee machine/ tea and biscuits must go in but what else
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.... is better always better ...
No; heated hides = insulation necessary = glass windows = poor quality viewing, particularly for photos

(or if heated but without insulation, dreadful shimmer as warm air inside mixes with cold air outside . . . and a huge waste of fuel)
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If it's too nice you may get more folk than just birders using it ...
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Point taken on the heating .... Perhaps heated seats like an old volvo..
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Point taken on the heating .... Perhaps heated seats like an old volvo..
In which case maybe an actual volvo, or hybrid hide/old school bus perhaps - would become a mobile hide?
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Coffee machine is a great idea :) But a coin operated bird food dispenser might be even better.

For me:
- Seats which can be moved forward and back to accommodate both bins and tripod viewing
- Windows which are high enough that people standing and sitting with different height can use both
And most important: that hide is in the place where birds are actually close to it, not just some overlook of a lot of reeds. In some places it would be great to have e.g. a hide with a long corridor through the reedbed right to the water edge.

Actually a hide can be arranged to bring birds close to it. For example a small island right in front of a waterbird hide, or even few floating tree trunks or a wooden pallet drifting in front.

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Point taken on the heating .... Perhaps heated seats like an old volvo..
Or heated ground, like an old volcano..

(yep, that's how I read your comment at first glance! )


Tho' heated seats would still have the same problem of shimmering warm air rising.
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Two things I'd want, that are surprisingly rare: doors and shutters that can be opened and closed silently
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I am always surprised how many hides face south here in the UK - so for a good chunk of the day you are facing into the sun (if there is any!).
East is East and West is West ..... but North is Best!
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Old Monday 14th August 2017, 09:25   #15
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So good all round vision with silent window mechs , fully adjustable seating , coffee / tea , good view .... what about sharing ... would some birders prefer hide company or solitude .....
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So good all round vision with silent window mechs , fully adjustable seating , coffee / tea , good view .... what about sharing ... would some birders prefer hide company or solitude .....
There are proper chairs & cushions in the Flitcham hide!! Wonder if a certain VIP visits it!
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I agree!
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It would be nice to have a sign somewhere prominent 'Please be considerate to other hide users'.

Shouldn't be necessary, but often is.

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A floor that doesn't bounce so much your scope gets moved all the time.

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Free-to-take-away Swarovski / Leica / Zeiss 'scopes and bins?
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Hope to start building the hides shortly and already even the basic hides will take on most of the points mentioned ..still looking for some high end wants on the wish list for the 2 executive hides ... and do we like sharing hides...
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Hope to start building the hides shortly and already even the basic hides will take on most of the points mentioned ..still looking for some high end wants on the wish list for the 2 executive hides ... and do we like sharing hides...
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I thought of that but decided some people are sufficiently ambitious with their identifications when sober!

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Are we discussing hides that are for hire eg to photographers or the usual open-access free hides?

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It's very easy to get carried away with this subject .. free biscuits, dancing girls, heated seats etc etc but being sensible some mostly useful previous threads on the subject -

http://www.birdforum.net/search.php?...19204973&pp=25

A couple more popular than others, and some getting a bit carried away of course.



Complete functionality of hide openings as mentioned a very important feature - seems to be so much easier to get this wrong than right. Idea is to have minimal water ingress, excellent viewing etc. Flexible seating also a good idea - allow scopes to be set up.

One problem intrinsic with hides is that you become slightly divorced from the outside - if a bird flies over you have no chance! Not sure what the (sensible) solution to that is.

Actual hide design - have hides in the UK been rated ever? Best design compared to cost.
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