Marcus Conway - ebirder
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Most photographers also wish there were no other photographers in the hide too... live and let live.
I was at Cley a couple of months back and the hide I was in seemed to become a pre-breakfast social gathering place for a lot of elderly men who didn't really watch out of the hides at all but happily discussed each other's ailments and put the world to right
Steve Arlow;2425525} Attached [/QUOTE said:First... I see a crowd like that.... I go in opposite direction.
Second..... This forum does seem to bring out the pettiness in all...
To acquire a degree of proficiency in birding takes experience and many years of patient diligence and application. There is no short cut.
In the past the same could be said for skill in photography. The ability to produce a picture of quality in the field demanded field craft and artistic flair.
Unfortunately digital cameras have removed that hurdle. Pointing the camera at an object and Firing off a random barrage of shots will probably produce something worthwhile eventually.
The simile of monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare comes to mind. I just don't see why I have to be in the same room while the monkeys labour noisily away and disturb myself and others.
To acquire a degree of proficiency in birding takes experience and many years of patient diligence and application. There is no short cut.
In the past the same could be said for skill in photography. The ability to produce a picture of quality in the field demanded field craft and artistic flair.
Unfortunately digital cameras have removed that hurdle. Pointing the camera at an object and Firing off a random barrage of shots will probably produce something worthwhile eventually.
The simile of monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare comes to mind. I just don't see why I have to be in the same room while the monkeys labour noisily away and disturb myself and others.
Unfortunately digital cameras have removed that hurdle. Pointing the camera at an object and Firing off a random barrage of shots will probably produce something worthwhile eventually.
The simile of monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare comes to mind. I just don't see why I have to be in the same room while the monkeys labour noisily away and disturb myself and others.
To acquire a degree of proficiency in birding takes experience and many years of patient diligence and application. There is no short cut.
In the past the same could be said for skill in photography. The ability to produce a picture of quality in the field demanded field craft and artistic flair.
Unfortunately digital cameras have removed that hurdle. Pointing the camera at an object and Firing off a random barrage of shots will probably produce something worthwhile eventually.
The simile of monkeys, typewriters and Shakespeare comes to mind. I just don't see why I have to be in the same room while the monkeys labour noisily away and disturb myself and others.
If only digital photography was that simple!
I suspect (based on my own experiences in hides) you are in the minority and will need to alter your modus operandi; maybe a degree of tolerance or if that fails, ear-plugs!
Russ
What a load of ignorant, ill-informed rubbish.
And you don't have to be in the same room - just go somewhere else.
Vivian is possibly not in the minority on this occasion. The fact that more photographers than birdwatchers have replied, with their usual ignorance of others, speaks volumes. The sole reason why I never visit Cley anymore is simply because the people with their easily acquired credit card cameras have made life unbearable for many.
Hand the hides back to the people they were built for....birdwatchers.
Vivian is possibly not in the minority on this occasion. The fact that more photographers than birdwatchers have replied, with their usual ignorance of others, speaks volumes. The sole reason why I never visit Cley anymore is simply because the people with their easily acquired credit card cameras have made life unbearable for many.
Hand the hides back to the people they were built for....birdwatchers.
Vivian is possibly not in the minority on this occasion. The fact that more photographers than birdwatchers have replied, with their usual ignorance of others, speaks volumes. The sole reason why I never visit Cley anymore is simply because the people with their easily acquired credit card cameras have made life unbearable for many.
Hand the hides back to the people they were built for....birdwatchers.
The majority of people using hides on very many nature reserves, certainly the ones I use, aren't birdwatchers.They tend to be mostly retired people, families or people out for a stroll in the countryside with little intimate knowledge of any wildlife group. Typically these people are interested enoughHand the hides back to the people they were built for....birdwatchers.