EL 8x32 SV: the story continues (1 Viewer)

brocknroller said:

Amen, brother, however, the number of those reporting issues with Swaro focusers is growing all the time, if I had to put a number to it, it would be more like 75/25, with 25 reporting issues they couldn't live with and who either returned the bin (someone did that very recently) or they sent it to Swaro for repairs.

Out of the 75 who were happy with their Swaro focusers, about 25 of those experienced some focuser issues, but they either resolved themselves like Ed's, or they weren't bothersome enough to return or get repaired, or they did send the bins in for repairs, but like like Piergiovanni, the problems weren't resolved, so they learned to live with them.

Then there's the .001% who still don't believe any focuser issues exist. Of course, they don't believe that Santa exists either, so wadda they know?

Brock

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Alexis Powell said:

No, it is just honest accurate reporting. Ninety-five happy owners don't negate the experiences of the other five.

--AP

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brocknroller said:

Steve wasn't referring to his 8x30 SLC but his old 7x30 SLC. The focuser turned smoothly in both directions on the 7x30 unlike his 8x30, which has the typical harder to turn in one direction movement, which is made worse by the fact that you need to use your ring finger (or tongue) to turn the knob rather than your index finger. OTOH, his 7x30's diopter knob was quite stiff whereas the 8x30's diopter is not.

So if it's not one thing, it's another. The only other Swaro I tried with a smooth focuser was the 8x32 EL WB, and I only handled that for about 10-15 minutes, shortest of all I tested. I don't think using them longer would have mattered, but I am interested in finding out how they held up over the past four years since I first tried them.

You're lucky if you got an 8x30 that focuses smooth in both directions. You remember how hard your 8.5x42's knob was to turn in one direction. Took me two fingers to turn. Steve's 8x30 wasn't nearly that stiff, but I'd like him to try chasing warblers at close to medium range with the SLC. Then I think he'd appreciate the difference between the focuser on the SLC vs. the smooth as a baby's bottom 8x32 LX.

Using the 8x30 SLC for hunting is a horse of a different COLOR.

As I've learned and as others have learned, Swaro focusers do not all operate with consistency. It's a crap shoot.

When I first suggested this with my remark about Swaro focsuers being the brand's "Achilles Heel," I got piled on, but as all can see post after post, thread after thread, by many more users than just me, Swaro focuser issues keep on being reported, but nobody seems to be listening in Absam. It's a shame, because this issue tarnishes otherwise excellent binoculars.

Brock

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bh46118 said:

I would think an SE box should be worth more than the binocular itself, depending on whether the box is in "as new" or "like new" condition.||

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Alexis Powell said:

My numbers weren't meant to describe the percent of happy owners or good focusers versus unhappy or bad ones, just to make a point about the structure of the argument.

--AP

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brocknroller said:

Mine, too, of course. I don't have exact figures, but I was incorrect about the percentage of those who don't believe "rolling ball" exists. I was off by one decimal point, that should have read .0001%.

Brock

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ronh said:

I'm about 1/1000 the birder that horokuru is, but I concur. Rolling ball and all, my wife's 8.5x42 SV is nothing but eye candy. The beautiful image is also somehow incredibly easy on the eyes. I'm hardly edge obsessed, but I can let my eyes wander with no sense of dread. The focus has gone from pretty smooth to very smooth with use, and it feels as bombproof as an old Leica Trinovid.

The SF might beat it, who knows, but is any SV owner going to care?

Ron

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