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Peter Kovalik

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Bryson, R. W., J. Chaves, B. T. Smith, M. Miller, K. Winker, J. L. Pérez-Emán, and J. Klicka. In review. Diversification across the New World within the “blue” cardinalids (Aves: Cardinalidae).

Pulgarín-Ra, P. C., B. T. Smith, R. W. Bryson, and J. Klicka. In review. Multilocus phylogeny and biogeography of the New World Pheucticus grosbeaks (Aves: Cardinalidae).

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Pheucticus grosbeaks

Peter Kovalik said:
Pulgarín-Ra, P. C., B. T. Smith, R. W. Bryson, and J. Klicka. In review. Multilocus phylogeny and biogeography of the New World Pheucticus grosbeaks (Aves: Cardinalidae).
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Pulgarín-R, Smith, Bryson, Spellman & Klicka (in press). Multilocus phylogeny and biogeography of the New World Pheucticus grosbeaks (Aves: Cardinalidae). Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]
Taxonomic ramifications
The six biological species (Sibley and Monroe, 1990) recognized within this genus can be divided into four additional phylogroups, several of which may warrant recognition as species. Current species limits are especially unclear in the Middle American form chrysopeplus and aureoventris of South America. Our results indicate that P. chrysopeplus as currently defined is paraphyletic with respect to P. tibialis (although strong support is lacking). The two groups of chrysopeplus recovered correspond geographically with distributions of the well-marked subspecies P. c. chrysopeplus (Vigors 1832) and P. c. aurantiacus (Salvin and Godman 1891) which occur in allopatry, west and east (respectively) of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in southern Mexico.
Relationships among populations of the South American groups P. chrysogaster and P. aureoventris also remain problematic, with our results suggesting that P. aureoventris may be paraphyletic (Fig. 2). The intriguing position in the species tree of our lineage of P. aureoventris from the eastern Colombian Andes (aureoventris I) as sister to the P. chrysogaster of central South America (Fig. 3), rather than sister to the P. aureoventris from Bolivia and Argentina, indicates that plumage characteristics might not be a reliable trait for species definition. Both of these species have patchy South American distributions suggesting that finer-scale sampling of both within northern Colombia and Venezuela would likely recover additional phylogroups along with additional taxonomic novelties. Although the patterns of plumage color variation in P. aureoventris have been examined in some detail (Fjeldså and Krabbe, 1990), the lack of studies on geographic variation, life history, and ecology is an impediment to properly delimit the species delimit the species and populations in this South American clade of Pheucticus.
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"Blue" cardinalids

Article first published online: 13 OCT 2013
Bryson, R. W., Chaves, J., Smith, B. T., Miller, M. J., Winker, K., Pérez-Emán, J. L., Klicka, J. (2013), Diversification across the New World within the ‘blue’ cardinalids (Aves: Cardinalidae). Journal of Biogeography. doi: 10.1111/jbi.12218

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Peter Kovalik said:
Article first published online: 13 OCT 2013
Bryson, R. W., Chaves, J., Smith, B. T., Miller, M. J., Winker, K., Pérez-Emán, J. L., Klicka, J. (2013), Diversification across the New World within the ‘blue’ cardinalids (Aves: Cardinalidae). Journal of Biogeography. doi: 10.1111/jbi.12218
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Splitting Amaurospiza concolor into A. concolor (Central America) and A. aequatorialis (South America)
Splitting Cyanocompsa cyanoides into C. cyanoides (west Andes) and C. rothschildii (Amazon)
Move Cyanocompsa parellina to the genus Passerina
Merge Cyanocompsa cyanoides, C. rothschildii, and C. brissonii to the genus Cyanoloxia, eliminating Cyanocompsa
 
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So, now Pheucticus chrysogaster , formerly Southern Yellow Grosbeak, or Golden-bellied Grosbeak is now Golden Grosbeak. Or was that an "April Fool" comment?
 
Um, I REALLY hope not, since that has been used for many years to describe the orangish Yellow Grosbeaks endemic to Chiapas and Guatemala (P. chrysopeplus aurantiacus)...
 
Especially if this field guide uses a modern format with plates, text, and and range maps on the same page. I will definitely switch over to your field guide if it means that when I finally get to Mexico I don't have to lug around the current behemoth.
 
Black-headed Grosbeak

Richard Klim said:
Pulgarín-R, Smith, Bryson, Spellman & Klicka (in press). Multilocus phylogeny and biogeography of the New World Pheucticus grosbeaks (Aves: Cardinalidae). Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]
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Van Els, Spellman, Smith & Klicka (in press). Extensive gene flow characterizes the phylogeography of a North American migrant bird: Black-headed Grosbeak (Pheucticus melanocephalus). Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]
Taxonomic implications
Our data set revealed three distinct mtDNA clades, two of which agree broadly with current subspecific designations (agreeing with Pulgarín et al. 2013). None of these clades were supported by nuclear data, which was characterized by low diversity overall and limited geographic structure. The two main groups, the Interior and Pacific clades, correspond with the nominate subspecies and P. m. maculatus, respectively. It is not known if the incursion of Interior haplotypes into the Pacific clade in northern California and southern Oregon is accompanied by introgression and corresponding phenotypic shifts (Hill 1995). Because differences between subspecies are subtle, it will be challenging to establish whether or not suture zones are represented by morphologically intermediate phenotypes. Although mitochondrial monophyly is not an indicator of morphological differentiation (let alone of subspecific status [Patten 2010, Remsen 2010]), further work will also be needed to verify the existence of phenotypic differentiation in birds from the Sierra Madre del Sur, which pertain to our Mexican mtDNA clade. This will require careful morphological analysis of full breeding-plumage birds from geographically disparate locations within the Sierra Madre del Sur and Transvolcanic Belt, accompanied by genetic analyses of these individuals.
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Brewer 2011 (HBW 16).

PS. Pulgarín-R et al 2013. Mol Phylogenet Evol 69(3): 1222–1227. [pdf]
 
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IOC World Bird List

Peter Kovalik said:
Bryson, R. W., Chaves, J., Smith, B. T., Miller, M. J., Winker, K., Pérez-Emán, J. L., Klicka, J. (2013), Diversification across the New World within the ‘blue’ cardinalids (Aves: Cardinalidae). Journal of Biogeography. doi: 10.1111/jbi.12218 [PDF]
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ntbirdman said:
Recommends:
Splitting Amaurospiza concolor into A. concolor (Central America) and A. aequatorialis (South America)
Splitting Cyanocompsa cyanoides into C. cyanoides (west Andes) and C. rothschildii (Amazon)
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Richard Klim said:
Avibase gives the name Ecuadorian Seedeater for A (c) aequatorialis.
Brewer 2011 (HBW 16) gives the name Rothschild's Grosbeak for C (c) rothschildii.
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AOU-SACC...
25. Bryson et al. (2014) found that the subspecies east of the Andes, rothschildii, was strongly divergent from trans-Andean populations and recommended that it be elevated to species rank. SACC proposal badly needed. They also found little evidence for gene flow between populations of the cyanoides group in contact in northern South America and suspected that two species may be involved.

37a. Bryson et al. (2014) found that Amaurospiza concolor is paraphyletic with respect to A. carrizalensis and proposed elevating the South American subspecies aequatorialis to species rank. SACC proposal badly needed.
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IOC World Bird List v5.2 (Draft):
www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/update-diary/
www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/species-updates/
2015 Apr 19: Accept Rothschild's Grosbeak
2015 Apr 19: Accept 'Ecuadorian' Seedeater; English name under discussion
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