Dave Williams
Well-known member
Some of you might know I have been in toying of buying a new computer and having seen first hand an Apple Mac I decided I wanted one.
Checking out pricing I discovered the exact machine I was after as a "used" model on Amazon. It was half price. The buyer had a short history but it was 100% from previous testimonials.Amazon isn't as widely used as Ebay for second hand goods sales so I dare say many potential buyers are unaware of the procedures, anyway an email address was given for further information and the reply came back quite quickly
Hello,
the Apple 21.5-inch New iMac (Aluminium silver) - (Intel Core i5 Quad-core 2.7GHz Processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M, OS X Mountain Lion) is in new condition ( it just had to be listed as 'Used - Like New' as the box has been opened), comes with all manufacturer supplied accessories, UK model,1 year full warranty. It has not been used. The price is £501.00 including delivery.Return policy is full money back in 30 days. If you want to buy send me your full name and delivery address to have your order placed with Amazon.
Regards,
I replied that sounded like a bargain and yes I'd have it, in the process sending my delivery address and phone number should the person want to answer my question on how to pay for it.
The item was taken off sale straight away and I waited for further contact.
Nothing came. I sent another e mail the following day . Still nothing.
Had the seller realised they had undersold the product. Maybe they bought it on a business account so the VAT could be claimed back and then they changed their minds about the operating system.I argued with myself surely everyone realised the worth of what they are trying to sell ?
I wanted that computer, and I wanted that price, it was a bargain.
I emailed again the following day and asked if the sale had fallen through and I got this reply
Hi again,
I was informed by Amazon that they send you all the payment and delivery informations. Search your inbox carefully and also check your bulk/spam/junk folder because it might have arrived there.
Please let me know asap.
Thank you!
Seven minutes earlier I had received an email from Amazon explaining their 3rd party policy. You sent the money via bank transfer to their agent in Poland and the money was held until you informed them that you were satisfied with the goods. Very authentic looking, there was even an email address which appeared to send to Amazon.co.uk if you had any queries relating to this invoice. These big companies do after all base themselves in foreign countries to avoid tax implications here in the UK. But bank transfer, that put up the warning lights.
I went in to my Amazon account and there was no mention of me having ordered this item , another major warning especially as an item I ordered the day after was right there.
The official looking invoice had the senders address. I checked it out on Google maps and although there was a similar address it was some distance away and the postcode I had been given here was a very unlikely place indeed.
Mark Lewis
41 Greenlands Road
Basingstoke
GU125RQ
United Kingdom
I rang Amazon and I have to say they were very efficient in getting back to me straight away.I have passed on all the details but I do wonder how far they will take it.
I have since spotted another mistake the scammer has made too.The emails I received were from a Mark Johnson not Lewis.
Finally, and I have only just noticed had I responded to the invoice email, the address that appears might look as if it's to Amazon.co.uk but if you put your mouse pointer over it it appears as Amazon.co.uk <[email protected]>;
So there you go. Another convincing attempt to try and con someone. The moral of the story is though, Caveat emptor..let the buyer beware ! Greed to secure that bargain might well be your downfall !
Checking out pricing I discovered the exact machine I was after as a "used" model on Amazon. It was half price. The buyer had a short history but it was 100% from previous testimonials.Amazon isn't as widely used as Ebay for second hand goods sales so I dare say many potential buyers are unaware of the procedures, anyway an email address was given for further information and the reply came back quite quickly
Hello,
the Apple 21.5-inch New iMac (Aluminium silver) - (Intel Core i5 Quad-core 2.7GHz Processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M, OS X Mountain Lion) is in new condition ( it just had to be listed as 'Used - Like New' as the box has been opened), comes with all manufacturer supplied accessories, UK model,1 year full warranty. It has not been used. The price is £501.00 including delivery.Return policy is full money back in 30 days. If you want to buy send me your full name and delivery address to have your order placed with Amazon.
Regards,
I replied that sounded like a bargain and yes I'd have it, in the process sending my delivery address and phone number should the person want to answer my question on how to pay for it.
The item was taken off sale straight away and I waited for further contact.
Nothing came. I sent another e mail the following day . Still nothing.
Had the seller realised they had undersold the product. Maybe they bought it on a business account so the VAT could be claimed back and then they changed their minds about the operating system.I argued with myself surely everyone realised the worth of what they are trying to sell ?
I wanted that computer, and I wanted that price, it was a bargain.
I emailed again the following day and asked if the sale had fallen through and I got this reply
Hi again,
I was informed by Amazon that they send you all the payment and delivery informations. Search your inbox carefully and also check your bulk/spam/junk folder because it might have arrived there.
Please let me know asap.
Thank you!
Seven minutes earlier I had received an email from Amazon explaining their 3rd party policy. You sent the money via bank transfer to their agent in Poland and the money was held until you informed them that you were satisfied with the goods. Very authentic looking, there was even an email address which appeared to send to Amazon.co.uk if you had any queries relating to this invoice. These big companies do after all base themselves in foreign countries to avoid tax implications here in the UK. But bank transfer, that put up the warning lights.
I went in to my Amazon account and there was no mention of me having ordered this item , another major warning especially as an item I ordered the day after was right there.
The official looking invoice had the senders address. I checked it out on Google maps and although there was a similar address it was some distance away and the postcode I had been given here was a very unlikely place indeed.
Mark Lewis
41 Greenlands Road
Basingstoke
GU125RQ
United Kingdom
I rang Amazon and I have to say they were very efficient in getting back to me straight away.I have passed on all the details but I do wonder how far they will take it.
I have since spotted another mistake the scammer has made too.The emails I received were from a Mark Johnson not Lewis.
Finally, and I have only just noticed had I responded to the invoice email, the address that appears might look as if it's to Amazon.co.uk but if you put your mouse pointer over it it appears as Amazon.co.uk <[email protected]>;
So there you go. Another convincing attempt to try and con someone. The moral of the story is though, Caveat emptor..let the buyer beware ! Greed to secure that bargain might well be your downfall !