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Old Sunday 6th May 2012, 22:50   #10451
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Part timers, who was there again today
mind you not till 1.30pm and spent 4 hours around the car park and north moors.
and slept on the North bench for a bit.
At the Moors
Little Gull, 3 common terns, lapwing, 4 Oycs. c200 hirundines 50 swift,
water rail 2 at north moors, garden warbler by east hide.

Flashes
Avocet 10, LRP 7, lapwing 3 only 1 sitting, common gull, common tern 2

warm sunny day's are certainly not conducive to migration.
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 07:45   #10452
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I am meeting a mate and his missus at UW at 6.30ish tonight before we go for a meal (don't worry he's a member ) I was wondering if you guys have a preference what side to meet to get a better chance of the SEO?
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 10:23   #10453
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Red Kite over the Moors Pool at 1015. First summer Little Gull still and Alan Hambury had a CUCKOO this morning!!

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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 10:25   #10454
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I am meeting a mate and his missus at UW at 6.30ish tonight before we go for a meal (don't worry he's a member ) I was wondering if you guys have a preference what side to meet to get a better chance of the SEO?
I'd stick on the Flashes. Whether you stay in the tower hide or hang around the archery field is a moot point. might need to hang around for an hour or more if your getting there at 6.30
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 10:44   #10455
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I am meeting a mate and his missus at UW at 6.30ish tonight before we go for a meal (don't worry he's a member ) I was wondering if you guys have a preference what side to meet to get a better chance of the SEO?
Was there till 9.15 last night and checked the archery field. No go mate but then again it has been missing for a couple of days. But it shouldn't really be around this late in the spring...poss a sign that spring is a t least 2 weeks later this year.
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 10:46   #10456
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Ok thanks Mike & John, I thought most reports were of it being there about 7ish?

I guess it all depends on the weather this evening, apparently it's going to be a bit wet
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 12:26   #10457
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Monday 7th May

FLASHES
10 Avocet, 6 LRP, 3 Lapwing, 2 Shelduck, 4 Gadwall (one pair driven off towards the Flashes), 2 Shoveler (why werent they there on Saturday ), 3 Linnet, 9 Coot, 4 Moorhen, 3 Canada Geese, Greylag Goose over, 3 LBB Gull, Common Gull still

SAILING POOL
4 GC Grebe, 5 Tufted Duck, 4 Canada Geese, 2 Coot, 1 Mute Swan

MOORS POOL
First summer Little Gull still, 7 Common Terns (best count this year), 2 Gadwall, 2 Little Grebe, 5 GC Grebe, 27 Coot, 3 Moorhen, 27 Tufted Duck, 2 Mute Swan, 30 Canada Geese, Cuckoo reported singing this morning, Red Kite drifted south 1010>1015, 2 Yellow Wagtails over

This morning's increase in tern numbers may bode well for later with rain and SE winds.

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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 13:24   #10458
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Blue headed Wagtail or possible intergrade amys marsh now
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 13:54   #10459
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Moors Pool

At approx 7.15am the BH Gulls were mobbing above an Otter feeding in the NW bay.After several attempts it caught what looked like a sizeable Eel which it dragged into the north reed bed.

Soon after a Cuckoo was calling from the direction of the education reserve.

Little Gull spent most of the morning on the east island.
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 16:30   #10460
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See attached photo of today's flava wagtail. Note: this has been cropped but not adjusted in any other way.

The throat is yellow - good for Blue-headed Wagtail. However, I'm a bit concerned about the head - perhaps a shade too pale? - suggesting intergrade 'Channel Wagtail' possibly? I'd welcome anyones opinions on this bird.

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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 16:48   #10461
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I appreciate the fact that we have some very knowledgeable experienced birders in our midst, but it may be worth whacking the photo in to the Bird ID section to open the audience.
Personally, I'd have it as a Blue-Headed flava. But as has been said, I know the square root of FA.
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 17:05   #10462
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Be my guest Sy - you can post it on there if u think it will help
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 17:13   #10463
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See attached photo of today's flava wagtail. Note: this has been cropped but not adjusted in any other way.

The throat is yellow - good for Blue-headed Wagtail. However, I'm a bit concerned about the head - perhaps a shade too pale? - suggesting intergrade 'Channel Wagtail' possibly? I'd welcome anyones opinions on this bird.

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Interesting bird

pro-flava-features
  • White Chin and Yellow Throat
  • Thin white supercillum

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  • Pale head colour

Not too sure about the amount of white under the eye/in ear coverts, seems borderline flava/flavissima

Seems close to flava but maybe flavaxflavissma x flava?! was it heard to call?
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 17:18   #10464
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Was with yellow flavissima wagtails calling frequently - nothing stood out as different to my ear.
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 17:37   #10465
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Was with yellow flavissima wagtails calling frequently - nothing stood out as different to my ear.
Be interesting to hear other peoples opinions, I'd go with intergrade type. Maybe other photos will show the head shade as darker, was this how it appeared in the field?
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 17:40   #10466
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Litttle Gull still at 9:15pm on the way back from London

7/05
Wanted to get better photos of the Gull, so came back, checked out the B-h Wag (Channel wag?) when i arrived, but it had moved onto the broadmeadow, so my photos are crap and worthless , although the bird had some Pro-Flava features, the pale colour of the head really bothered me, had it been a shade or two darker it would have been more straight forward!
However, at some angles, the head did appear a darker colour than it does side on (such as when it was back on), I wouldnt stick my head out and assign it to a species (I'll let the Big boys do that ) but hydrid seems most likely for me, The pale head doesnt seem pale enough for Channel, but not dark enough for Blue-Head, maybe a back cross of a hydrid as tim says. (Flava X flavissma X Flava)

I did get some photos (which i was quite proud of) of the Gull but after seeing the ones already posted on here, mine arnt anywhere near as good :P


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Also, to bring up the point again, sad news regarding the North Moors hide, but hopefully something good can come from this, and may i say john, the sketches of what could be done look good!
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 17:45   #10467
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Be interesting to hear other peoples opinions, I'd go with intergrade type. Maybe other photos will show the head shade as darker, was this how it appeared in the field?
Yes tim, thats how it was in the field. My photo shows the same shade:
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The distance hindered any chance of a good photo for me.
Will post a short crap video which i will link to on here later
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 17:45   #10468
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Be interesting to hear other peoples opinions, I'd go with intergrade type. Maybe other photos will show the head shade as darker, was this how it appeared in the field?
Exactly, Tim - my first impressions were that the head was pale. However, at certain angles it did appear darker. Having seen many Blue-headed Wagtails abroad I would say this bird is at the very limit of the range for pure-bred flava. It is difficult to rule out intergrade, however.
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Try this article for starters - if nothing else there are lots of pretty flava photos:

http://www.manchesterbirding.com/fla...ilsarticle.htm
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a few from today

includes the kite best i could get silhouetted!
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a few more

the kestrel in one pic has a mouse or some such, as for all dayer with pics had 54 today in about six hours, very enjoyable half day. ps cheers dave ref coney meadow.
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 19:42   #10472
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the kestrel in one pic has a mouse or some such, as for all dayer with pics had 54 today in about six hours, very enjoyable half day. ps cheers dave ref coney meadow.
That's what you call action shots
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Old Monday 7th May 2012, 20:14   #10473
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North Moors

The northern end of the NM appears to have an increase in common passerines breeding this year. These include Chaffinch, robin (2 prs), dunnock, wren (2prs), Blackbirds (2prs), Long tailed tit - 2 weeks ago I thought the nest in the NW bramble patch had been predated, however yesterday I saw a flock with fully fledged juvs amongst it, which were possibly from the nest in the NW corner. At least 2 pairs of chiffchaff and 2 possibly 3 blackcaps were also holding territory. There has been intensive management in this area over the last few months and it would nice to think the increase has been as a result of structural diversity created here. Some more summer migrants are overdue so I will revisit with some more intensive surveying at the end of the month. If you are walking around the trail spend a bit of time near the viewing screens and check out the thickets and bramble patches.
I did also the potential for some habitat creation, but more of that at another time.
On a negative point the tit boxes don't appear to be being used in the eastern plantation.
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Well, whatever it is , its a nice looking Wagtail Dave
Would not dream of offering an oppinion, but it's certainly 'flava of the month'
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lovely bird, and great find. never heard of one before, so had to find out more. good website here
http://www.manchesterbirding.com/fla...ilsarticle.htm
points to ...
make up your own mind
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