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Old Tuesday 21st August 2012, 15:14   #1
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Young chiffchaff/willow w... (France)

Hi all,

Can we say which one it is on that photo (in France)
http://www.valeryschollaert.com/inde...d=2952&catid=2

Personally I can't


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Old Tuesday 21st August 2012, 17:07   #2
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if wingtips are as short as i see them this can be only a chiffchaff.
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Old Tuesday 21st August 2012, 18:34   #3
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Hi Lou,

thanks for helping. I see like you, but I wonder is this feature is reliable for such a young bird with primaries potentially not yet fully grown...
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Old Tuesday 21st August 2012, 19:08   #4
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/melanis...9826/lightbox/ this is a typical fresh young willow warbler. by the end of august i think it is not likely that primaries are still growing.

could it actually be an adult chiffchaff? with such a messy plumage it seems in active body and head moult!
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Chiffchaff in moult.

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Old Tuesday 21st August 2012, 20:13   #6
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I think this bird has a small tick caudal to the lower mandible making it look like a very young juv.
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