Florida - lots of ID help with warblers & swallows (1 Viewer)

Zackiedawg

Well-known member

• Jan 27, 2016

• #1

We finally got a blast of cold air working its way down here in S Florida, and finally got the first batch of winter birds that just were not coming this way all fall and early winter. With that comes the inevitable ID troubles for me! Any help appreciated with these:

1. Not sure - all the white around the face is throwing me off - two shots of this one:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/162434254/original

http://g3.img-dpreview.com/496ED55FA3F24AB4BC3FB7C2D7D64B70.jpg

2. I was thinking tree swallow - but also unsure if northern rough-winged:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/162434274/original

3. Female tree or rough-winged?:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/162434277/original

4. These had all kinds of color on them - but didn't look like the barn swallows, so I wasn't sure - got three different shots of these ones:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/162434290/original

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/162434294/original

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/162434294/original

5. Slightly different look on this one, maybe a female of whatever it is?:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/162434291/original

6. Another:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/162434293/original

7. I was thinking yellow-rumped warbler but not 100%:
http://g4.img-dpreview.com/1D7167DC10AB48448F65FA28C5BA9C84.jpg

8. Unsure on this guy:
http://g2.img-dpreview.com/348D94D72FB749D6857FB60E363BB978.jpg

9. This might be the same bird as #8 - not sure:
http://g1.img-dpreview.com/D42DE99BEDFC41308F33D9530A6CF0AF.jpg

10. Not sure on this one with the darker colors:
http://g4.img-dpreview.com/33498700999C4C37B232FFE138065A43.jpg

Thank you in advance for all ID help, as always!

 

Tero

Retired

• Jan 27, 2016

• #2

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/162434290/original
cliff swallow

 

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birdmeister

Well-known member

• Jan 27, 2016

• #3

#2-3 are Northern Rough-winged.
#4 is actually Cave Swallow, I think. It has a buffy forehead and throat.
#6 is also N. Rough-winged, I think.
#7 is Yellow-rumped Warbler.
#8-9 are Palm Warbler.
#10 is also Yellow-rumped.

EDIT: #3 is possibly Bank Swallow (also called Sand Martin), but could be N. Rough-winged.

 

Last edited: Jan 27, 2016

Zackiedawg

Well-known member

• Jan 27, 2016

• #4

Thank you so far. I had another source ID #4 as a cave swallow as well - they specified the 'mexican' race of cave swallow and not the west indian variety.

I had a feeling on those palms and yellow rumpeds for 7-10 - birdmeister's IDs are in line with what I was guessing they might be.

Are you fairly certain on 2-3 as rough winged? I find it quite difficult telling the rough-winged apart from juvenile and female tree swallows. #6 also may be - does #5 look the same?

So far, I'm still hoping for ID on #1, confirm on #2, 3, 5, and 6. I'll take #7-10 as probably correct. #4 sounds good for cave based on 2 IDs, with Tero's ID on cliff swallow providing a touch of doubt, so any additional confirms would be great.

 

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birdmeister

Well-known member

• Jan 27, 2016

• #5

You can tell Northern Rough-winged Swallows from Tree Swallows by their throats. Rough-winged has a dusky brownish throat (visible on bird #2 and somewhat on bird #6), while Tree has a white throat (somewhat visible on #5, which makes me think it might be Tree) . #3 is rather hard to tell from Bank Swallow, looking at it a second time. Bank Swallow has a white throat and a clean, crisp brown band across the upper chest. #3 has a band across the chest, but I don't know if it's clear enough to be Bank Swallow or if it's another Rough-winged.

 

Zackiedawg

Well-known member

• Jan 27, 2016

• #6

I was thinking possible bank swallow on #5 too, actually. The head seemed to have a darker bit and belly white - difficult to tell for sure.

 

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Kratter

Well-known member

• Jan 27, 2016

• #7

1 pine warbler
2-3 rough-winged
4 cave
5 tree, young male. You can see some steely green feathers in rump
6 rough winged
7,10 yellow rump
8,9 Palm

 

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tom baxter

Well-known member

• Jan 28, 2016

• #8

1 is pine warbler, 5 is tree swallow, too dark and large for bank and as stated above you can see some blue or green-ish rump feathers. agree with others.

 

Zackiedawg

Well-known member

• Jan 28, 2016

• #9

Thank you! I'll consider all the ID's closed now...much appreciated.

 

TLeukering

Well-known member

• Feb 10, 2016

• #10

tom baxter said:

1 is pine warbler, 5 is tree swallow, too dark and large for bank and as stated above you can see some blue or green-ish rump feathers. agree with others.

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Tree Swallow also shows the distinct mask shown by the bird in pic #5, and that bird's wings are broad-based. Wing shape and wingbeat shape are excellent ID characters in swallows.