New Camera Canon Powershot G10 (1 Viewer)

hi there

My enterprising OH had decided to aim towards our middle range camera - he has his eye on a Canon Powershot G10.

We currently own a Coolpix S10 and we will buy a nikon D300 in the near future.

This Canon mentioned here is the camera we hope to buy before we go on holiday to Spain in a few weeks time

Any good points and bad points for us to take note of.

This time I will answer all replies on this thread as will other from common courtesy as everyone was and still is really helpful before on the other thread about the Nikon D300

I recently got a Canon G9 (the model before) and am very impressed with it. The G series cameras allow a lot of control (similar to you get on a DSLR) and have an excellent lens, the only downside is the low light performance. It seems that images upto ISO400 are fine but above that the in camera noise reduction is very heavy handed - I should stress that the noise levels are poor by DSLR standards but still very good for a compact. The G9 is the best digital compact I've had (I've been through a lot over the years), it's nice to use and delivers very good images, I'm sure eth G10 is at least as good.

I've got a G10 and agree with everything Postcardcv has said.
Its a fine little camera which performs very well for a compact with a huge amount of manual control over how the camera is setup.
If you shoot jpeg I'd keep to iso100 as much as possible, using iso200 only when needed. Iso400 is noisy and the noise reduction applied to a jpeg is very heavy handed. Shooting raw though gives you control over the noise reduction and I'm happy with images taken at iso400 if processed carefully.
That is the only downside I've found, and I'm really enjoying using the G10.

Kathy

Have you looked at the Canon Powershot SX10 IS?.
The Zoom on that goes up to 560mm so would be useful foe long rang shots. Not seen it myself but like the specs.

I suppose its fair enough to say that there are many, many compacts all with different merits. I chose the G10 out of a much smaller choice because, for me, the camera had to shoot raw. Jpeg only I wasn't interested in.

Making a comparison with SX10 I suppose that you'll have a better IQ with G10 (has a larger sensor). Sure SX10 has longer lens...

The ability to shoot RAW was a big issue for me too, I do use jpg a lot of the time with the G9 but it's nice to be able to flick to RAW when needed. I'm sure that the SX10 is a great camera but it really cannot be compared to the G10, they are very different cameras aimed at different markets.

postcardcv said:

I recently got a Canon G9 (the model before) and am very impressed with it. The G series cameras allow a lot of control (similar to you get on a DSLR) and have an excellent lens, the only downside is the low light performance. It seems that images upto ISO400 are fine but above that the in camera noise reduction is very heavy handed - I should stress that the noise levels are poor by DSLR standards but still very good for a compact. The G9 is the best digital compact I've had (I've been through a lot over the years), it's nice to use and delivers very good images, I'm sure eth G10 is at least as good.

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Hi PostcardCV

Thank you for your reply.

From the things you have mentioned about the G9, it looks like we will be choosing wisely. G10 must be in the same league as waht you have.

OH is purchasing the camera just before we go on holiday to Spain, unless anything changes. We really need a half decent camera for improved photos that what we have now.

We will bear in mind about the light varations that come from the camera itself. The ISO can be only set at ISO400. I will show OH this thread, so he has an idea waht the best settings are.

paul goode said:

I've got a G10 and agree with everything Postcardcv has said.
Its a fine little camera which performs very well for a compact with a huge amount of manual control over how the camera is setup.
If you shoot jpeg I'd keep to iso100 as much as possible, using iso200 only when needed. Iso400 is noisy and the noise reduction applied to a jpeg is very heavy handed. Shooting raw though gives you control over the noise reduction and I'm happy with images taken at iso400 if processed carefully.
That is the only downside I've found, and I'm really enjoying using the G10.

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Hi Paul

Thank you for your advise. I will be using the camera for jpeg files for downloading purposes so that is the main consideration at the moment.

As members know, I write a few reports for BF. If I where to open a blog in the fuure on BF amongst other things this will help me on my way. JPEG files are easy files to handle.

To me this is like the next step up from the Coolpix, and we will keep the Coolpix for more general lightweight snaps.

alan_rymer said:

Kathy

Have you looked at the Canon Powershot SX10 IS?.
The Zoom on that goes up to 560mm so would be useful foe long rang shots. Not seen it myself but like the specs.

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hi Alan

Thank you for your suggestion. :t:

I will mention the model to my OH and see what he has to say about it. I think he has looked long and hard for the camera he wanted and I cannot dispute the fact - with him

paul goode said:

I suppose its fair enough to say that there are many, many compacts all with different merits. I chose the G10 out of a much smaller choice because, for me, the camera had to shoot raw. Jpeg only I wasn't interested in.

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hi Paul

The market place is a big polace for people like myself who are only really beginning to take photographs more seriously. It souunds like the G!0 is favoured for lots of reasons.

We are still 'green' at taking photographs and we do not want to many complex parts to begin with until we get the hang of what we are doing.

Cristian Mihai said:

Making a comparison with SX10 I suppose that you'll have a better IQ with G10 (has a larger sensor). Sure SX10 has longer lens...

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hi Cristian

Ask a silly question here, but does a longer lensas in SX10 mean there are more parts to carry around with us as a rule?

postcardcv said:

The ability to shoot RAW was a big issue for me too, I do use jpg a lot of the time with the G9 but it's nice to be able to flick to RAW when needed. I'm sure that the SX10 is a great camera but it really cannot be compared to the G10, they are very different cameras aimed at different markets.

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hi postcardCV

I am getting the picture what is being said here. The G10 sound more for us as we want a middle range camera at the moment. Ideal for taking on holiday, and not too complicated to understand.

We are going for a mighter camera so that will our future plan. A good quality camera is expensive and we need to put our duel savings together for the D300.

So the way the G!0 has been talked about it appears a bit more what we want at the moment. :t:

I an sure that there will be other thoughts about the G10 too

Hi Peewit,

SX10 it's a superzoom. There are not interchangeable lens/parts. But, obviously, SX10 is bulky and weights with 60% more then a G10.

My choices for a vacation/travel camera:
1. Panasonic TZ5,6,7 series. Pocket cam with VERY useful lens range that does decent video too. Underwater housing option avialable. TZ5 is a super value now.
2. Canon SX10-SX1. dslr-like feel and control with an even greater zoom range than the Panasonic. Get the SX1 if HD video is important.
3. Ricoh CX1. Best pocket cam for stills now and current darling of the Japanese market. Best screen of any digicam with a very usefull 28-200mm lens range. CMOS sensor with very fast shooting speed and best low light/dynamic range performance in a digicam. I think when more reviews come out, its image quality will be shown to exceed the Canon G10.

cheers,
Rick

RJM said:

My choices for a vacation/travel camera:
1. Panasonic TZ5,6,7 series. Pocket cam with VERY useful lens range that does decent video too. Underwater housing option avialable. TZ5 is a super value now.

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The TZ series are nice point and shoot cameras but have very limiting controls. I had a TZ5 for a while and liked the good zoom range and small size, but found the lack of manual control very annoying. It had a habit of over saturating most images and images taken with the flash had a very harsh look.

Hi there

This afternoon we have taken the plunge and bought the Canon Powershot G10, plus a 4GB memory card. All bought by himself at a cost of £449.99 for the camera and £19.99 for a Sandisk SDHC card - 4GB from Curry's (without the insurance of £128 extra on top of the cost of the camera - we are going to take a risk!)

We have just set the battery up to charge up now, and OH is reading the instructions now. So we are so new to this we will see how we progress with the camera

At least we have some time to play with it, and have it for our up and coming holiday in Spain.

Will let you know how we progress.

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Trouble downloading Canon <.JPG> Pictures to BF posts

Hi there

I hope I have put this in the right place. As I have new camera I thought I may as well add to the same thread.

We took the camera out with us today and took a lot of pictures with it (using Auto for pictures at the moment as a starting point - ...... Macro is the next stage up :eek!: )

I have downloaded the pictures using the Canon CD facility for pictures, as we thought that would be the way forward with picture quality etc... no problems

With the Cooplix S200 we simply used the Windows picture graphic program and that was that. Simple as that. It is fine to download 'snap' pictures to BF etc... so much more basic

Now I see that the Canon picture files are showing as <IMG_0001.JPG>. I have tired to download todays pictures to new post on BF and the file is refusing to download. I tried to rename it - run it through windows graphic pictures and nothing is happening. that <IMG_> is still there. :eek!:

My Coolpix pictures are <01.JPG> so the file extension is different all together, and it works on BF

What am I doing wrong - it is something silly - it has to be. Daah me

Hi there

After all the thinking about the pictures, I think I have worked out the problem

The pictures taken are too large for thumbnails (knew it was something silly) daah me - need to be a bit more patient here before adding posts

The size of the Canon picture is 4416 x 3312

The size from the Coolpix is 640 x 480

So that is sorted though I think I may be able to change them to thumbnails each time without resizing each individual one when I download onto BF.

Kathy the size of the image should be a menu option on both, probably best to shoot with the highest possible quality and resize on the PC.

Duke Leto said:

Kathy the size of the image should be a menu option on both, probably best to shoot with the highest possible quality and resize on the PC.

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Hi Duke

I had a look at the instructions about resizing the images on the camera menu, and have taken note of what you have said about resizing via the PC screen rather the camera. I have a one page copy now, and OH is informed too. :t:

Resizing on Camera menu is:
M3 - 1600x1200
S - 640x480 (that is the size suitable for thumbnails on BF, as I used that picture size before with the Coolpix camera)
XS - 320 x240

Now, since I types my last post I have found out to resize the picture via Canon instructions of the photo's via PC screen. I can download pictures as thumbnails on my other Forums. So all is fine now in that area :t:

So I have tried the same size on this Forum (640x480) and I am sure it is alright sizewise.

Now I have come across another snag and that is downloading the files (byte size) as thumbnails to 'Manage Files' area of BF

This message pops up:

328kb bytes exceeds forums limit of 297kb bytes. So now file size (not picture size) is another issue that stops me from downloading pictures.

Another daah question here! :eek!:

Thank you for your patience. I think it is getting the swing of downlaoding the files onto the PC and BF Forum itself, then concentrating on the 'image' itself.