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Buteo sp.... Azores November 2012 (1 Viewer)
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Microtus
Maryland USA (he/him)
It doesn't look like a Red-tailed Hawk to me, certainly not like the ones where I live.
phil baber
Clipped Wing
Buteo rufinus cirtensis might be a contender...?
Though I'm sure this deserves much discussion.
Though I'm sure this deserves much discussion.
Valéry Schollaert
Respect animals, don't eat or wear their body or s
Agreed!!! Very interesting bird.
Tail pattern is good for North African Buzzard indeed (that I call Buteo [buteo] cirtensis); but I've no experience of Iberian intermediate population. I would exclude all North American species.
bitterntwisted
Graham Howard Shortt
What puts this bird outside the range of variation of the local rothschildi?
eddy the eagle
Well-known member
There are now some hybrids between common buzzard,buteo buteo,and long legged buzzard buteo rufinus cirtensis.I know of some in my area of Cadiz,Spain but they tend to look more like buteo buteo with the tail features of cirtensis.I have not seen a bird like this But it could be a cirtensis in plumage moult. MHO of course Eddy.
lou salomon
the birdonist
i don't know if rothschildi is as variable as buteo but such birds certainly are within variation of nominate common buzzard.
Valéry Schollaert
Respect animals, don't eat or wear their body or s
- Buteo & cirtensis hybridizes
- Cirtensis has a voice similar to buteo, different compared to rufinus
- Shape of cirtensis is similar to buteo and is not long-winged as rufinus
- There is no genetic support of actual "usual" classification
So why calling cirtensis "long-legged"?
Exact, as many cirtensis also falls within variation of Common Buzzard (what it is, probably). I was not aware of local population of CB on Açores. I checked on the web and didn't find rothshildi (not recognized as a subspecies by some authorities) with similar plain buff rump and reddish tinge on tail, but photos are few and the most likely solution is, indeed, a local buzzard...
Rui_Caratão
Well-known member
Another photo of the same bird on a Portuguese Forum, I havent seen this one in flight...nice!!!
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9003/butterceira.jpg
At first I thought RTH, in Azores almost anything is possible!!! But I have never seen RTH with plain rump and lower back before, even light morphs like Krider´s or Harlan´s, so its origin is most probably from the West.
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9003/butterceira.jpg
At first I thought RTH, in Azores almost anything is possible!!! But I have never seen RTH with plain rump and lower back before, even light morphs like Krider´s or Harlan´s, so its origin is most probably from the West.
