Kenyan hornbill (1 Viewer)

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Andrew S

Kentish Mother

• Feb 7, 2004

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I took this photo about ten years ago (September) in Kenya. I think it was near Lake Baringo, but may just have been near the coast.

Looking through my guide I can't quite make my mind up about it - my first choice would be Jackson's, but I wouldn't rule out Red-billed.

Any views?

Andrew

 

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Michael Frankis

conehead

• Feb 7, 2004

• #2

Checking in HBW, I'd agree with Jackson's (which they treat as a race of Von der Decken's) - the bill is probably too stout, and the face too black, for Red.

Michael

 

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Andrew S

Kentish Mother

• Feb 7, 2004

• #3

Thanks Michael

By the way, what is HBW? I was using the new(ish) Stevenson/Fanshawe East Africa book, which is a delight after the Collins guide I took to Kenya. Lot heavier though...

Andrew

 

Michael Frankis

conehead

• Feb 7, 2004

• #4

Hi Andrew,

Handbook of the Birds of the World (Lynx Edicions, Barcelona)
http://www.hbw.com

Must admit, they're a bit mis-named, 'Forklifttruckbook of the Birds of the World' would be nearer the mark, but they're VERY good

Michael

 

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Andrew S

Kentish Mother

• Feb 7, 2004

• #5

Trawling a bit further through my Kenyan slides I've come across these two. These were at Tsavo, and I think these are the Red-billed.

Pretty rough shots though.

 

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cuckooroller

Registered User

• Feb 7, 2004

• #6

Andrew,

Be careful as there is another split in the offings for T. erythrorhynchus. Think that they want to split it into five species.

 

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Andrew S

Kentish Mother

• Feb 7, 2004

• #7

I'd better get my slides named quickly then!

 

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helenh

Well-known member

• Feb 7, 2004

• #8

Andrew: First shot is Jackson's, the chunky bill with cream/yellow tip coupled with the white-spotted back is a really good id feature for this bird. The other 2 Tsavo shots are Red-billed ........

Steve: 5 species!!!! Blimey .....

 

cuckooroller

Registered User

• Feb 8, 2004

• #9

helenh said:

Andrew: First shot is Jackson's, the chunky bill with cream/yellow tip coupled with the white-spotted back is a really good id feature for this bird. The other 2 Tsavo shots are Red-billed ........

Steve: 5 species!!!! Blimey .....

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Hi Helen,

I think I saw some pics somewhere in the Percy Fitz pages. They may even be in the new Subsaharan Birds of Africa put out by Peter Ryan, et alia., though I haven't yet perused this book I think that Pete Ryan is one of those proposing these splits if I am not mistaken.

 

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helenh

Well-known member

• Feb 8, 2004

• #10

cuckooroller said:

Hi Helen,

I think I saw some pics somewhere in the Percy Fitz pages. They may even be in the new Subsaharan Birds of Africa put out by Peter Ryan, et alia., though I haven't yet perused this book I think that Pete Ryan is one of those proposing these splits if I am not mistaken.

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Thanks Steve. I'll have to look up the references.

Helen

 

cuckooroller

Registered User

• Feb 8, 2004

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Here I am back again Helen. It wasn't the Percy Fitz pages and I can't recall where I heard about Pete Ryan's involvement though I know I heard it somewhere. Do you remember when I asked you about T. pallidirostris, well, I made the connection between you , pallidirostris, and this page here.

http://www.up.ac.za/academic/genetics/staff/Bloomer/Research/Projects/redbilled_hornbills.html

 

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helenh

Well-known member

• Feb 8, 2004

• #12

cuckooroller said:

Here I am back again Helen. It wasn't the Percy Fitz pages and I can't recall where I heard about Pete Ryan's involvement though I know I heard it somewhere. Do you remember when I asked you about T. pallidirostris, well, I made the connection between you , pallidirostris, and this page here.

http://www.up.ac.za/academic/genetics/staff/Bloomer/Research/Projects/redbilled_hornbills.html

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Thanks for that. Very interesting indeed (must look at some of my Samburu photos again!).

Helen