Mr. Sganzin's Comoro Blue-Pigeon ... in French (1 Viewer)

I have to reurn to Monsieur Victor Sganzin (who suposedly died in 1841) ...

... est décéde à Lorient, le 23 Février 1841, à lʼâge de quarante-deux ans. C'était un observateur zélé et les observations, que nous possédons de lui sur plusiers animaux malgasches, sont fort intréssantes. (from here)

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Which I suspect is the same guy as the one commemorated in the scientific name ...

sganzini as in:
• Comoro Blue-Pigeon Alectroenas sganzini BONAPARTE 1854 (here) as "Fun. [Funingus] sganzini, O. des Murs, d'apres Verreaux. ..." ... no dedication nor any explanation.

Apparently this name was coined earlier by Œillet des Murs and/or (Jules?) Verreaux, but where and when is unknown (to me). Bonaparte himself seems totally unaware of late Monsieur Sqanzin, maybe he didn´t know him at all?

Other sources claim Monsieur Sganzin to have been "… né à Strasbourg en 1799". But if he truly did is also unknown to me. However, this far, no dates found on his birth.

Today's HBW Alive Key has him as:

sganzini
Capt. Victor Sganzin (fl. 1840) French Army, Governor of Ile Sainte-Marie, Madagascar 1831-1832, naturalist, collector (Alectroenas).

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Anyone now know anything additional!?

Björn

PS. He's also mentioned earlier in this Forum, back in 2014, in thread ... and 22 plausible etymologies! (here), even if that certain Post (that I have to admit) wasn´t, the easiest one, neither to read nor to follow in thought! .
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Death certificate: [here]; click on Liste des communes, go to letter 'L', scroll down and select Lorient (paroisse et commune) (420); select Décès; Année exacte: 1841; click Rechercher; open the file Lorient, Commune de Lorient - décès - 1841-1841; go to image 28/129: he's the third one on the left side (#222).

Charles Victor Joseph Sganzin
b. 2 Jun 1798, Strasbourg (Bas-Rhin), d. 23 Feb. 1841, Lorient (Morbihan).
Capitaine en premier au Régiment d'artillerille de marine.
Knight of the Legion of Honour (but I don't find him on Léonore).

Calalp said:

Apparently this name was coined earlier by Œillet des Murs and/or (Jules?) Verreaux, but where and when is unknown (to me). Bonaparte himself seems totally unaware of late Monsieur Sqanzin, maybe he didn´t know him at all?

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It seems it was first used in print by Chenu & Oeillet des Murs, earlier on the same year, [here].
They attributed the name to J & E Verreaux (perhaps they got it from some unpublished source, such as a specimen label), and did not describe the bird (i.e. the name is a nomen nudum).

"They attributed the name to J & E Verreaux (perhaps they got it from some unpublished source, such as a specimen label)"
Here in 1887 it says, Columba Sganzini J. Verreaux ms.
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/113518#page/289/mode/1up .
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/6389509#page/58/mode/1up .
http://www.euppublishing.com/doi/abs/10.3366/anh.2017.0421 .
It might come from this Sganzin article from 1840 from Strasbourg natural history publication:
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/105918#page/154/mode/1up .

l_raty said:

Charles Victor Joseph Sganzin
b. 2 Jun 1798, Strasbourg (Bas-Rhin), d. 23 Feb. 1841, Lorient (Morbihan).
Capitaine en premier au Régiment d'artillerille de marine.
Knight of the Legion of Honour (but I don't find him on Léonore).

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Must be 21 Messidor VI?

The Eponym Dictionary of Birds claims:

Blue Pigeon Alectroenas sganzini Bonaparte, 1854
Captain Victor Sganzin (d.1841) was a French naval gunnery officer and entomologist who was Governor of Île Sainte-Marie. He travelled in Madagascar (1831–1832) where he claimed to have seen the gigantic egg of the extinct 'elephant bird', and perhaps acquired it. It was rumoured that an egg was sold to the natural history dealers Verreaux (q.v.), but that the ship carrying it to France ran aground on the rocks of La Rochelle and all specimens lost. He wrote 'Notes sur les mammifères et sur l'ornithologie de l'île de Madagascar (1831 et 1832)'.

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Taphrospilus said:

Must be 21 Messidor VI?

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14 Prairial VI ? (21 Messidor VI = 9 Jul 1798.)