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Björn Bergenholtz

(former alias "Calalp")
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David Waterhouse, in: The Origins of Himalayan Studies. Brian Houghton Hodgson in Nepal and Darjeeling 1820–1858 (2004):
There is some uncertainty over Hodgson’s date of birth. This is given as 1 February 1800 in W.W. Hunter and all subsequent references – however, Hodgson himself, writing his biographical memoir in 1868, gives 1801 as his birth date. This date was also given by Susan Hodgson, his second wife, writing her account of the family history towards the end of his life. As he was christened on 28 November 1801 in Macclesfield this suggests that the later date is more likely. The date of his entry to Haileybury is also significant. Hodgson records that he was granted a special licence to enter Haileybury under age in February 1816 – with a birth date in February 1801 this would have made him just fifteen on entry. Hudson remarks in his biography that the normal age of entry was seventeen – however the prospectus of the College, issued in 1806, mentions entry at the age of fifteen. Of Hodgson’s direct contemporaries at Haileybury it seems, where one can deduce the year of birth, that normal entry was in the sixteenth year. This strengthens the case for an 1801 birth date for Hodgson. [p.1]
Here or here.
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James's HBW Alive Key updated today (no longer born "1800"):
hodgsoni / hodgsoniae / hodgsonii / hodgsonis
● Brian Houghton Hodgson (1801-1894) English diplomat, Resident to Nepal 1833-1844, ethnologist, naturalist ...

According to The British Library:
Biography of Brian Houghton Hodgson

Brian Houghton Hodgson was born on 1 Feb 1801 at Lower Beech, Prestbury, Cheshire. His year of birth was almost certainly 1801, not 1800 as often stated: the confusion probably arose because Hodgson and his family used inclusive reckoning for age. He was the second of the seven children of Brian Hodgson (1766-1858), country gentleman, and his wife, Catherine (c.1776-1851), daughter of William Houghton of Manchester and Newton Park. The name ‘Brian’ had also been borne by his grandfather and great-grandfather, landowners in the Midlands and Northwest England.
... and onwards
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Anne's (alt. "Annie's") Partridge

Also a minor addition on ...

hodgsoniae as in:
• Tibetan Partridge a k a "Mrs. Hodgson's partridge" Perdix hodgsoniae HODGSON 1856 as "S.[Sacfa] Hodgsoniæ" (here, Plate on previous page):
* I take the liberty of dedicating this handsome species to Mrs. Hodgson, whose accurate and tasteful delineations of Himalayan scenery will do much to attract attention to this fine field for scientific research.
= the apparently artistic Anne "Annie" Hodgson née Scott (ca.1815*1868), first wife of the pioneer ornithologist, naturalist and linguistically interested collector (and ethnologist) Brian Houghton Hodgson (1801–1894), whom she married in 1853.

She was the daughter of the Officer Colonel Commandant Henry Alexander Scott (Royal Artillery), born ca.1799, who also died in 1868, aged 89, then appointed Brevet General) and his wife Anne (who´d passed in 1865, aged 85).

During a visit to Europe in 1853, Hodgson met and married Anne Scott (c.1815 -1868). His Nepalese partner, Meharunnisha, who remained in Kathmandu in 1843, had probably died shortly before this. His wife returned with him to Darjeeling, but in 1857 her health broke down and because of this and also his father's illness, Hodgson returned to England in 1858. He settled down to the life of a country gentleman in Gloucestershire, first at Dursley and then at Alderley, but, after 1883, wintering at the 'Villa Himalaya' at Mentone on the French Riviera. His wife died in January 1868 and the following year he married Susan Townshend. His children born in Nepal had all died at an early age and there were no children from either of his formal marriages. [here]
Hovever; she didn´t paint the Plate itself. See end of the OD.

For what it´s worth!

Björn

PS. Etymology of Sacfa, of the Tibetian Sakpha (see OD above)

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*"Annie" died: "Jan. 3rd, 1868, aged 52."
 
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As far as I understand things; Miss Anne Scott, married Brian Houghton Hodgson at the British Embassy, in the Hague (Den Haag), in 1853 (see here alt. here). She was the daughter of General Alexander Scott. Her brother Robert had passed away shortly before the marriage. Maybe clues to find her birth?

Also see the detailed Paper: The Catalogue of the Hodgson Collection in the British Library, by John Whelpton and Michael Hutt, 2011 (here).

If of any help? Or this one?

/B
 
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Just to bring it back on the table because of her birth date.

The Eponym Dictionary of Birds claims:
Hodgson's Partridge Perdix hodgsoniae Hodgson, 1857 [Alt. Tibetan Partridge]
Anne Hodgson née Scott (d.1868) was the wife of the British naturalist Brian Hodgson (q.v.), who described the bird and named it after her.

So the question is 3. Jan 1868-52 =3. Jan 1814 (day in 1868 when she became 52 years) or latest till 2nd. Jan 1815 (when she was still 52 years old). My tendency is to 1814.
 
All records I see say she was born in 1816 in Londonderry.
Ie
45 in 1861 census
35 in 1851 census

Perhaps in 1815 but not 1814.
 
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