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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 10:14   #1
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Bird Mastermind round 5

No comments till 6pm.... most recent suggestions at that point count. I've gone back to really bad photos, you lot are too good with the better ones!
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 10:28   #2
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Tie-breaker

Extra points for style (plant ID, aging sexing, guessing locations etc)
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 10:32   #3
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First try:
1.juv Lanius senator in Tamarix sp.
2. 11 Blackheaded Gulls and 1 Common Gull (=Mew Gull)
3.oops--Cisticola juncidis??
4. Red Kite
5. Larus cachinnans

passeriformes probably wrong...
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 11:10   #4
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Hmm, back on form with these I think Jane:

1) Golden Oriole
2) 11 Black-headed Gulls and a Common Gull
3) Fan-tailed Warbler, as I still prefer to call them
4) Montagu's Harrier
5) California Gull

Tiebreaker - errrr, I'll get back to you
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 11:18   #5
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Ok lets have a go

1. ???? (Good start)
2. Lookin for the catch but can't make them anything other than BH gull and a Common
3. Fan-tailed Warbler (only one faily confident on)
4. Montagu's Harrier (plumping for one of three)
5. A gull (fizzling out badly)
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 11:31   #6
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I'm with Brian on these ones.
Is that an Olive Tree in the second post?
NO idea on the Bird though.

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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 11:59   #7
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I like Fife's suggestion of Golden Oriole.

The gull could well be Herring Gull.

And if that is an Olive Tree, why not Olive Tree Warbler although the yellow tones would seem to imply something like Icterine is more likely.

Are they all WP?
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 12:20   #8
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all could have been taken in WP
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 12:24   #9
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1, Arabian (or is it Common?) Babbler
2, 10 B-h Gulls, 1 Common, 1 Med.?
3, Zitting Cisticola
4, Monty's,
5, California Gull
6, Olive tree Warbler.
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 13:10   #10
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1 Golden Oriole (in Tamarix)
2 11 Black-headed Gulls + 1 Common Gull. Tried hard to make them a flock of Bonaparte's, but couldn't.
3 Fan-tailed Warbler (easily identified by the zits it is suffering from)
4 Marsh Harrier subad. male
5 Caspian (cachinnans) Gull, 3rd/4th winter type
6 Scarlet Tanager female/imm. in a Viburnum shrub

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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 14:02   #11
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1)Golden Oriole
2)Black-headed Gulls+Common Gull
3)Fan-tailed Warbler
4)Montagu's Harrier
5)Yellow-legged Gull(michahellis) subad,head shape looks wrong for Caspian
6)Scarlet Tanager
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No 6 could be a Baltimore Oriole looking uncharacteristically ugly. Not sure about the shrub but Michael's probably got that nailed (although not to species I note).
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Oh and I reckon California Gull's probably wrong for No 5 as it's not (as far as I know) been recorded in the WP. So I reckon Caspian Gull.
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1)Not a Golden Oriole, no dark on the lores, looks more warbler-like.
2)Black-headed Gulls+Common Gull
3)Fan-tailed Warbler
4)Montagu's Harrier
5)Yellow-legged Gull(michahellis)
6)Scarlet Tanager
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For number 6 I would go for baltimore oriole,
the plant gives a Viburnum-like impression, but I am not happy with that because I canīt nail it down to a species-something seems wrong- at least none of the smaller leafed species I know has such greyish and not shiny leaves-but flowers would fit.
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 15:07   #16
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1: Olivaceous Warbler
2:BH and Common
3:Fan-tailed Warbler
4:Montagu's Harrier
5:Ring-billed Gull
6:Scarlet Tanager
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 15:10   #17
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Bird 4, on the deck
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 15:13   #18
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The bill on the supplementary bird looked smaller/thinner in life...
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 15:24   #19
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Hmm,No.6 looked thinner billed?I'd like to change my guess from Scarlet Tanager to another Nearctic passerine(though probably way out with this guess!):Yellow Warbler.
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No. 4 is no red kite then,
but a melanistic harrier, I would go for a melanistic Marsh harrier
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The plant in 6 was growing in a brackish lagoon if that helps.
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Oh-then definitely no Viburnum!!!
Could it be something of the family Chenopodiaceae? But there the leafs normally do not stand opposed to each other, if I remember correctly...
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juv Rose Coloured Starling, 11 BH Gull & 1 Common Gull, Fan Tailed Warbler, Montagu's Harrier, Armenian Gull(Yellow Legged "armenicus"), Yellow Warbler-only because of Harry I hadnt got a clue what it was.
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 17:57   #24
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I know I said 6... but everyone has had a go. Shall we get interactive. All species have been named, 5 is the best anyone has done.


Picture 2 is supposed to have a third species in it. I am unable to see it in there....well not without a huge amount of application of imagination. I didn't take the photo, but I did see it fly in and join this small flock.
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Old Friday 14th November 2003, 18:32   #25
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I've just noticed bird one has a red eye. So I reckon it's a Golden Oriole, but too late-my first stab at Rose Coloured Starling has to be my answer!
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