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Old Wednesday 2nd January 2008, 12:54   #1
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Bird feeder visitor - UK - no pics!

OK - here we go.

A colleague with a passing interest in birds has a vistor that they can't identify.

The description that she's given, and the only photo that she recognises confirms her ID from her bird book that the bird in question is a Sedge Warbler.

The bird is present now, is feeding in her Mancunian suburban garden and making some visits to her garden feeders.

Common sense says it won't be a Sedge Warbler, but I've gone through a host of possibilities inc Siskin, Redpoll, Brambling, Chiffchaff, Blackcap etc. She's familiar with the usual garden birds and we can rule out larger eyestriped birds such as Redwing on size, and smaller ones like Firecrest.

What am I missing that might fit the bill? (And yes, before you ask I will try and get down to see it when I can!).


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Old Wednesday 2nd January 2008, 12:58   #2
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OK - here we go.

A colleague with a passing interest in birds has a vistor that they can't identify.

The description that she's given, and the only photo that she recognises confirms her ID from her bird book that the bird in question is a Sedge Warbler.

The bird is present now, is feeding in her Mancunian suburban garden and making some visits to her garden feeders.

Common sense says it won't be a Sedge Warbler, but I've gone through a host of possibilities inc Siskin, Redpoll, Brambling, Chiffchaff, Blackcap etc. She's familiar with the usual garden birds and we can rule out larger eyestriped birds such as Redwing on size, and smaller ones like Firecrest.

What am I missing that might fit the bill? (And yes, before you ask I will try and get down to see it when I can!).
If this bird is present right now, then it's highly unlikely to be a Sedge Warbler as they are summer visitors.

Otherwise I'm stumped! Can you give any more details other than the eyestripe?
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Old Wednesday 2nd January 2008, 13:08   #3
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Eyestripe, streaked back, pale underparts, "sparrow" sized, brownish rather than greenish. It's not much to go on I know (if the description was fuller I'd have hoped to haver cracked it myself!) - but I'm sure I'm missing an obvious candidate.

Wintering Sedge wouldn't be unprecedented but the records I could find (Cambridgshire x2 and Cotswold Water Park) all related to typical habitat and certainly can't see one being attracted to a feeder!
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Old Wednesday 2nd January 2008, 13:14   #4
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What about a well marked Chiffchaff?

(but still unlikely on the feeder)
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Old Wednesday 2nd January 2008, 13:26   #6
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Yeah, sounds like Reed Bunting to me. Folks don't always imagine they'll come to bird tables, and winter plumages aren't featured in every ID book. I bet they catch plenty out.
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Old Wednesday 2nd January 2008, 14:03   #7
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I was thinking Reed Bunting too. But if she's that confused over Firecrest/Redwing, wouldn't she just think it was a sparrow?
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Thanks - we tried Reed Bunting but she's convinced there is no streaking to the underparts at all.....
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How about an escape? Something like a Bishop, Whydah or other seedeater sounds like it would be fit.
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I suppose details such as eyestripe can mean an awful lot of things. Wouldn't be a dunnock would it?

PS I wouldn't say it has an eyestripe, but this illustration has http://www.dungevalley.co.uk/Birds/dunnock.jpg
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Does she know her female House Sparrows?
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I'm pretty sure that she does - otherwise I wouldn't have asked such a "how long is a piece of string" question on this Forum!

If I hadn't ruled some birds out as possibilities then you migt have wasted time suggesting them - its a bit Catch-22 really.

Thanks anyway for all your suggestions, by rights it should turn out to be a Jay really - it's the usual answer to the "my mate has a bird in his garden" question.

It looks like it has an early afternoon routine so I'll try and take a late lunch tomorrow and see if I can see it for myself.

Just hoping it isn't a Chinatown Warbler!
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Just hoping it isn't a Chinatown Warbler!
If it is, just don't tell Jane
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Of course if it does turn out to be a Sedge Warbler after all, it won't be the first winter record in the UK
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Yeah, sounds like Reed Bunting to me. Folks don't always imagine they'll come to bird tables, and winter plumages aren't featured in every ID book. I bet they catch plenty out.
My Mum had three together on her bird table this week - not for the first time either....
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Tend to err on the female house sparrow ticket as they can be variable at this time of the year. Reed bunt a good call too, though.
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No further sign I'm afraid - I'm hoping that they'll see it again over weekend and I can get down to solve the mystery.

Thanks again for the suggestions.
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I heard that

It was obviously a Bobolink
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There is bracken in the garden!
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