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Saturday 1st March 2008, 13:32
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Woodpecker - Europe in February.
Hello everyone
A friend sent me this photo of what he described as a Great spotted woodpecker female. The photo was taken in Europe last month. At this point I won't say where, but it was within the range of GSW but NOT of Syrian. To me this shows three features of Syrian woodpecker; 1. The black on the "cheeks" not curving up onto the nape 2. Paler red on the undertail coverts (?) 3. Outer tail feather mostly black with only 2-3 white bars. What does everyone else think? This is the only photo he has of the bird. Sean |
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Saturday 1st March 2008, 13:47
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Interesting bird; did you also see http://birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=108436?
I agree on the features you highlight, but the feathers on the nostrils look black to me, which would be a GSW feature according to Jos. The forehead looks white (pro-Syrian). The white spots on the wing look better for GSW (just checked that again). But why not give the location – I don't really see the point... Last edited by Xenospiza : Saturday 1st March 2008 at 13:50. |
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Saturday 1st March 2008, 14:04
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The nares look better for GSW and as do the white spots on the primaries.
But I also agree with what you said before, but perhaps more of the white tail bars on the outer recs are obscured?
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Saturday 1st March 2008, 14:24
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White forehead is dificult to value in this image due to risk ov overexposure. GSW (and hybrids) can lack the dark post auricular stripe and there´s overlap in undertail covert colour tone.
Outer tail feather pattern seems good for Syrian. JanJ |
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Saturday 1st March 2008, 14:40
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C'est pas ma faute, je suis anglais.
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At first glance, a nice Syrian, but agree with what's been said, there are small things that just don't add up. So where was it taken?
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Sunday 2nd March 2008, 09:04
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Well, apologies everyone; the story is this.
My friend took the photo in the UK. He did a little work in Photoshop (hence the anomalous features!) and sent it to me to see if I noticed.......... He's a cheeky scoundrel! I wish I was that good with Photoshop! Sorry again Sean |
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Sunday 2nd March 2008, 17:41
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C'est pas ma faute, je suis anglais.
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lol - he certainly did a good job there! I can't see any of the manipulation on it!
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Sunday 2nd March 2008, 20:16
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Was going to say the cheek band looks as if it's been photoshopped out, but didn't want to offend anyone!
Jason |
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