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Old Friday 30th May 2008, 19:10   #1
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Grosbeak, Black-headed? or Rose-breasted So. California

I went searching for a reported sighting of a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. However, I did not knowingly see one. I have never seed one unless these two shots are them. I didn't notice until I processed the pictures that these do look like grosbeaks. It does resemble the Black-headed with the bicolored bill (according to Sibley) but not like any of the Black-headed Grosbeaks that visit my feeders. Anyways let me know what your opinion is. Thanks in advance.
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Old Friday 30th May 2008, 19:24   #2
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Helo Dennis.

What about House Sparrow (Passer domesticus)

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Hi Dennis,

Not grosbeaks, but female (or juvenile) House sparrows.

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What about House Sparrow (Passer domesticus)

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Darn, there were a lot of them around and house finches as well.
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Thanks all, I just glad there weren't domestic pigeons.
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Yes, they're House Sparrows.
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Female House Sparrows for sure.

Don't feel bad this happens with them. Just when I think I know what I'm doing when it comes to sparrows, female House Sparrows in some unusual place will make me look like an idiot.
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Female House Sparrows for sure.
Hi Gentoo,

I do not have much to go on except my Sibley's, but I was actually leaning towards juvenile (or female-type) House Sparrow of indeterminate sex. Sibley's seems to show these as having darker lores and a more strongly defined eye-line, which arguably we see here. Also, I would think an early juvenile House Sparrow (Sibley gives May through September for the plumage) might show a larger beak than an adult, and I think we might be seeing that here also.

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