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Old Sunday 7th September 2008, 05:53   #1
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Green or Wood Sandpiper?

I saw this wader on the beach this afternoon. I'm in Hokkaido, Japan by the way..........

Waders generally aren't my strong point. I must admit I had this down as a juvenile Wood Sandpiper (it looked quite long legged and dainty, and the supercilium looked fairly pronounced or so I thought) but now I'm not so sure. Could it be a Green Sandpiper?

I didn't get a good view of it in flight so didn't see the underwing pattern (which is how I usually ID these 2 species, neither of which I see regularly).

Any opinions by folk more knowledgeable than myself would be much appreciated....

The second picture is the same bird with, I believe, a Lesser Sand Plover.


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Old Sunday 7th September 2008, 06:20   #2
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You're right, it's a Wood Sand. And yes, it's with a juv LSP (Mongolian Plover) in pic 2.
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Old Sunday 7th September 2008, 06:23   #3
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Structurally it's a Wood Sandpiper imho.

A Lesser Sandplover with such long and pale legs ? Maybe.
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Old Sunday 7th September 2008, 07:20   #4
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Hello,
it is a wood sanpiper to me.
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Old Sunday 7th September 2008, 08:09   #5
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Yep, Structurally it's a Wood Sandpiper, Green Sandpiper has shorter legs and appears fatter. The prominent supercilium also helps id this as a juvenile Wood Sand .As a rule of thumb, to my eyes Green Sands always look more monochrome - dark above and pale below, whereas Wood Sand doesn't, the dark upperparts are broken up by these pale spots.

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Thanks a lot for everyone's replies.

Actually both species (the Wood Sand and the LS Plover in picture #2) were both local ticks..........hence my caution ID-wise.
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Actually both species (the Wood Sand and the LS Plover in picture #2) were both local ticks.......
Just by curiosity, do you have other pictures of the Sand Plover ?
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Just by curiosity, do you have other pictures of the Sand Plover ?
Hi, there were 2 Sand Plovers, here are some heavily cropped shots.
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And here are some more..........

The shortish bill led me to Lesser Sand Plover although the legs aren't so dark and seem a tad long.......
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Old Sunday 7th September 2008, 12:13   #10
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All nice examples of Lesser Sandplovers with the pale tipped upperparts juvenile.
Yellowish legs not so wrong for some - bill zise and shape good for LSP..

http://shorebirds.exblog.jp/pg/blog....A22%3A00%2E000

http://shorebirds.exblog.jp/pg/blog....A39%3A00%2E000

Geater:

http://shorebirds.exblog.jp/pg/blog....A11%3A00%2E000

http://shorebirds.exblog.jp/pg/blog....A02%3A00%2E000

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Thanks Jan, I figured it was Lesser.

Greaters are pretty scarce in Japan..........
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Thanks stuprice68, nice pictures and nice Lesser Sandplovers !
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Just by curiosity, do you have other pictures of the Sand Plover ?
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