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Old Thursday 2nd November 2017, 16:15   #3226
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I just checked & Cabelas now has the Meopta Euro 8x32 HD back in stock for $399.95
The two 1 star and two 3 star reviews on Cabella's is a red flag for me on those. You never see 1 or 3 star reviews on a Swarovski or Nikon EII. Several people didn't like them and had trouble with them.

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Old Thursday 2nd November 2017, 16:25   #3227
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I just checked & Cabelas now has the Meopta Euro 8x32 HD back in stock for $399.95
You won't get a better 8x32 for that Price!
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Old Thursday 2nd November 2017, 16:34   #3228
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The two 1 star and two 3 star reviews on Cabella's is a red flag for me on those. You never see 1 or 3 star reviews on a Swarovski or Nikon EII. Several people didn't like them and had trouble with them.

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Cabela's reviews are difficult to evaluate because they lump similar models lines all together. They only way to tell which model is being reviewed is if the writer states it in the review.
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Old Thursday 2nd November 2017, 16:44   #3229
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Cabela's reviews are difficult to evaluate because they lump similar models lines all together. They only way to tell which model is being reviewed is if the writer states it in the review.
It sounds like they are all on the Euro HD even though some are on different magnifications. I still don't see any reviews on Swarovski's or Nikon EII's like this on any magnifications. I find the critical reviews more important than the positive reviews. It is a red flag for me.

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I purchased the Euro HD 10x42 binoculars because I had been looking at them for a long time. I finally saw they were on sale so I decided to buy them. They had over 64 reviews and they were rated 5 stars. I really wanted to purchase Swarovski's but figured the high price was not justifiable and with a 5 star rating on the Euro HDs from all of the reviews, I figured I was buying a great pair of binoculars. WRONG!!! I purchased them sight unseen and was basing my decision on all of the reviews. Then about 5 days later I went to the Cabelas store about 2 hours from my home. Well when I picked up the Euro HD 10x42 binoculars and looked through them, I thought they were ok. Consequently, the Swarovski EL10x42 binoculars were sitting in the display case right near the Euros. I asked the sales person if I could look through them and compare the two pair of binoculars side by side. WOW!! I have to say there is absolutely NO COMPARISON!! The Euro HDs were horrible. To give you an idea of how poor the optics were...when you look through the Euro HDs inside the store it was like looking into a room with a 40 watt lightbulb on. When you look through the Swarovski El 10x42 binoculars it's like looking into a room with a 100 watt lightbulb on. The bottom line is the Cabelas Euro HD binoculars have very poor optical quality and I would not recommend them to anyone who is serious about hunting, birding or anything else you would use binoculars for. If you really want the best optics, stick with Swarovski because nothing compares to them. I purchased the EL12x50 model and returned the Euro HDs. Best decision I made that day. I'm surprised Cabelas would put there name on a product that is so inferior in optical quality."
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Old Thursday 2nd November 2017, 16:49   #3230
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The two 1 star and two 3 star reviews on Cabella's is a red flag for me on those. You never see 1 or 3 star reviews on a Swarovski or Nikon EII. Several people didn't like them and had trouble with them.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/CABEL...tabsCollection
OK, but that's still only 4 reviews out of 80, so a pretty slim percentage had problems with those. And if you read enough reviews, you'd probably find that percentage that have trouble with any binoculars ever made, due to the human element always present in evaluations.
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[quote=denco@comcast.n;3638584]It sounds like they are all on the Euro HD even though some are on different magnifications. I still don't see any reviews on Swarovski's or Nikon EII's like this on any magnifications. I find the critical reviews more important than the positive reviews. It is a red flag for me.

Come on give us a break ..... Its just like when I remember my brother talking me into taking into my mouth a spoon full of LIMA beans for the first time. He expected me to spit them out just because he had. I ended up liking them when he did not ...... You know where I am going with this. Well I am going to anyway, For many reasons NOT Everyone Sees things the Same. I happened to try a pair a few years ago at a Cabelas store. Thought they were excellent both physically and optically and I did not try to justify not owning them because I read someone else had a bad opinion. The only reason I did not purchase them was at the time I had too many other 8x32 binoculars I was not even using. I 'll take the chance for 50% off, if I get a defective pair(lemon) I will just return for another.
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Old Thursday 2nd November 2017, 18:04   #3232
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Best Binoculars October 2017 (non-brand names)

article on best binoculars in 8x42 size (published mid-October 2017): https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-binoculars/
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Old Thursday 2nd November 2017, 18:06   #3233
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I've owned the Meopta Meostar (Cabelas Euro) HD's in both 10x42 and 8x32. They are fantastic, period, and I own EL SV's and SLC HD's to compare them to. Are they SV's.....no. Are they SLC HD's.....almost indistinguishable to me. The only nit I can pick with the 8x32's is their small oculars didn't fit my face very well. Glass is every bit as good, if not slightly better, than my SLCwb 8x30's.

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Old Thursday 2nd November 2017, 21:54   #3234
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OK, but that's still only 4 reviews out of 80, so a pretty slim percentage had problems with those. And if you read enough reviews, you'd probably find that percentage that have trouble with any binoculars ever made, due to the human element always present in evaluations.
Check out the reviews on the Nikon 8x30 EII on Amazon.com. Twelve 5 star ratings and really no criticism except for them not being waterproof. I challenge you to find a 1 star review on a Swarovski.

https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-Binocul...Nikon+8x30+EII
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Old Thursday 2nd November 2017, 21:57   #3235
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I've owned the Meopta Meostar (Cabelas Euro) HD's in both 10x42 and 8x32. They are fantastic, period, and I own EL SV's and SLC HD's to compare them to. Are they SV's.....no. Are they SLC HD's.....almost indistinguishable to me. The only nit I can pick with the 8x32's is their small oculars didn't fit my face very well. Glass is every bit as good, if not slightly better, than my SLCwb 8x30's.

Fear not, they are excellent.
That was the same problem I had with the Euro's. The small oculars didn't fit my face well. You kind of have to question why the Euro's are 50% off also. Maybe they are coming out with a new models or maybe they don't sell well then you have to ask yourself. Why?

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Dennis, the small ocular problem was with the 8x32 only, IME. Yes, they are coming out with a new Cabelas euro binocular, made by Meopta.
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It sounds like they are all on the Euro HD even though some are on different magnifications. I still don't see any reviews on Swarovski's or Nikon EII's like this on any magnifications. I find the critical reviews more important than the positive reviews. It is a red flag for me.

Come on give us a break ..... Its just like when I remember my brother talking me into taking into my mouth a spoon full of LIMA beans for the first time. He expected me to spit them out just because he had. I ended up liking them when he did not ...... You know where I am going with this. Well I am going to anyway, For many reasons NOT Everyone Sees things the Same. I happened to try a pair a few years ago at a Cabelas store. Thought they were excellent both physically and optically and I did not try to justify not owning them because I read someone else had a bad opinion. The only reason I did not purchase them was at the time I had too many other 8x32 binoculars I was not even using. I 'll take the chance for 50% off, if I get a defective pair(lemon) I will just return for another.
I agree for that price they are worth trying. Let us know how you like them. I never liked Lima Beans. My mother always made us eat them. My grandfather loved them.
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Dennis, the small ocular problem was with the 8x32 only, IME. Yes, they are coming out with a new Cabelas euro binocular, made by Meopta.
Maybe they will change the ocular size on the 8x32.
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I agree for that price they are worth trying. Let us know how you like them. I never liked Lima Beans. My mother always made us eat them. My grandfather loved them.
I will give my opinion sometime late PM tomorrow, that's when they are going to be delivered. By the way as things changed, so as my taste for Lima beans. I do not care for the taste anymore. So goes the same for my eyesight this past year. If my eyes see things now in a negative way when I take another look thru the Meopta 8x32 I will send them on to another owner.
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Reviews.... You know a review is only as good as the REVIEWER? If one has NO IDEA who the reviewer is or their history, the review is...well....WORTHLESS!

On thing IS for certain....
The Meopta B.1/Cabela's Euro HD 8X32 is nothing short of a super binocular for the money that will show binoculars double in price a thing or two. I have absolutely ZERO hesitation recommending this binocular....providing the ergonomics(eye cups) suit the user. It is a great binocular at retail price and at $400, it's really a no-brainer!
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Reviews.... You know a review is only as good as the REVIEWER? If one has NO IDEA who the reviewer is or their history, the review is...well....WORTHLESS!

On thing IS for certain....
The Meopta B.1/Cabela's Euro HD 8X32 is nothing short of a super binocular for the money that will show binoculars double in price a thing or two. I have absolutely ZERO hesitation recommending this binocular....providing the ergonomics(eye cups) suit the user. It is a great binocular at retail price and at $400, it's really a no-brainer!
These seem to be good, but an important question is if the warranty is
transferrable to a second owner.

I have seen reports that it will not on the Cabela's models.

It would be helpful if someone could clarify this one.

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Reviews.... You know a review is only as good as the REVIEWER? If one has NO IDEA who the reviewer is or their history, the review is...well....WORTHLESS!

On thing IS for certain....
The Meopta B.1/Cabela's Euro HD 8X32 is nothing short of a super binocular for the money that will show binoculars double in price a thing or two. I have absolutely ZERO hesitation recommending this binocular....providing the ergonomics(eye cups) suit the user. It is a great binocular at retail price and at $400, it's really a no-brainer!
How does the Cabella Euro HD 8x32 compare to the Nikon MHG?
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These seem to be good, but an important question is if the warranty is
transferrable to a second owner.

I have seen reports that it will not on the Cabela's models.

It would be helpful if someone could clarify this one.

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That confirms it, the Cabela's warranty does not transfer.

I wonder about the Meopta warranty and how it compares.

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Why do you say the Cabelas warranty doesn't transfer?

I know for sure that Meopta's does though.
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Why do you say the Cabelas warranty doesn't transfer?

I know for sure that Meopta's does though.
That is the difference...............they are not the same........

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OK. We'll agree to disagree on the Cabelas warranty. You do not have to register your purchase with Cabelas to get the warranty. They have no idea who owns it.
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These seem to be good, but an important question is if the warranty is
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I have seen reports that it will not on the Cabela's models.

It would be helpful if someone could clarify this one.

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How does the Cabella Euro HD 8x32 compare to the Nikon MHG?
I never owned them at the same time...hard to say. My brother and I we birding...he forgot his binoculars...I always have an extra or two and he had a choice between an FL 8X32 and the Euro HD 8X32. After about two minutes we went birding he using the Euro HDs. He later bought them from me!
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Thank you for the warranty info from Cabelas Chuck. I learned something there for sure.
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